----------------------------------- Nika Silwerra Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:28 pm Does Robocop feel pain ?? ----------------------------------- Hi all pls who is cool and can explain this ?! I dont know maybe this topic was here sometime, but if yes I certaily was not member here.. and why the qestion ? In the scene from R1 where the Clarence stabed him with the bar , the Robocoo shoud as crazy .. it looks that he really feel the pain .. and in the R2 in the scene in the steel mill too this scene of course http://www.film.org.pl/images2/ostre/robocop.jpg but now when I am wathing the Robocop the series or the PD the Robocop here has not as if any emotions!! :| so pls who know a answer at this qestion?? ----------------------------------- Josh Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:33 pm ----------------------------------- Well seeing as Robo still has a few of his human parts (namely some nerves etc), I think he does infact feel pain. But that is only if you penetrate the outer shell and hit the right spot, seeing as he is now mostly machine. Well thats my theory anyway... ----------------------------------- Mephisto Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:36 pm ----------------------------------- I still think some of his upper torso remains. I could be wrong though. It's always the reason I thought he screamed at that point. ----------------------------------- artuditu Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:46 pm ----------------------------------- I made that same question some time ago, and the main answer I got by other board members was that it was a psychological reaction... That didn't convince me much... But it has a bit of logic, since if Robo was stabbed in an organic part, I presume that human organic part was necessary to keep him alive, then damaging it should have kill him... or it wasn't necessary and was just his digestive system (babyfood, etc.) Anyway didn't they explain in R2 that he could feel pain? by that technician assistant (she was an interesting character, but extremely little developped) when robo was dismembered. Or it is not a question of having organic parts inside his body, I mean, maybe his human brain (or the rest of it) could translate or interpret mechanical disfunctionalities into human pain. For example an oil drain that would prevent to feed and make work properly the rest of his body, it isn't very different of what happens with a real human body. ----------------------------------- Josh Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:48 pm ----------------------------------- Hence nerves. Or nerve centres... "His nerve centres are lit up like christmas trees" And there, ladies and gentlemen is the answer to the question. ----------------------------------- nogga_nootch Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:45 am ----------------------------------- yeah his brain is hard wired into the body he may not feel it as bad as a normal person but it will probably spark something when he's badly damaged. ----------------------------------- Nika Silwerra Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:39 pm ----------------------------------- ahh so very thanks for you opininons boys anf very nice Artuditu thanks .. I think you all together have truth!! :wink: ----------------------------------- RoBoToOnZ Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:05 pm ----------------------------------- I made that same question some time ago, and the main answer I got by other board members was that it was a psychological reaction... That is a good idea! Its like if you where to be kicked in the balls, you react WELL before the foot touches your unmentionables!! Id go with that! So when he has the spike ramed into his heart for a second he screams out BUT wqhen Bodicakar says "Now your not a robo" Murphy then clicks and forgets the "pain" and reacts with a blow to the neck! :D Bri 8) ----------------------------------- Sgt. Reed Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:29 am ----------------------------------- So when he has the spike ramed into his heart for a second he screams out BUT wqhen Bodicakar says "Now your not a robo" Murphy then clicks and forgets the "pain" and reacts with a blow to the neck! :D Dude.. :ohdear: it's "Sayonara, Robocop." ----------------------------------- Josh Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:33 am ----------------------------------- Oh Bri. What will we do with you? ----------------------------------- Damonzero Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:59 am ----------------------------------- I think Clarence stab his heart area, the heart is the main part of robo thus causes his pain? as mentioned in robocop3 (after robo was shot n in need of a new heart) ----------------------------------- Sgt. Reed Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:32 am ----------------------------------- Yeah but if he did, then Murphy wouldn't have lasted so long without some repairs. I mean after this, he doesn't seem to be malfunctioning or anything. After Clarence puts the bar through his chest (which I presume wasn't the heart), Robo still lifts the huge girder of himself, propably drives Lewis to the hospital, then goes to the OCP building and never shows any signs of a heart failure or damage. Welcome on board Damon!! :D ----------------------------------- SiR-ROUND Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:33 am ----------------------------------- Robocop 2: His painsensors are lit up like Christmas trees... Or something like that. Yeah, he feels pain, if he didn't he wouldn't function right. ----------------------------------- Nika Silwerra Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:14 am ----------------------------------- nice boys .. you brought to this case new light .. right and you see SiR .. why we forgot for this ?! ----------------------------------- Bambi Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:35 pm ----------------------------------- I should imagine if OCP had any sense they wouldn't have him feel pain so that it doesn't slow him down when he's chasing the bad guys. But still have a memory built in of what he shouldn't go near such as fire etc. ----------------------------------- robohell Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:37 pm ----------------------------------- Robocop 2: His painsensors are lit up like Christmas trees... Or something like that. Yeah, he feels pain, if he didn't he wouldn't function right. Maybe the painsensors are also warning signs telling Robo he's taking on damage? If he didn't know he was getting hurt he would just keep fighting till he fall's over, and then it's to late to get out of the situation or go for repairs. ----------------------------------- Bambi Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:44 pm ----------------------------------- Nothing hurts RoboCop...only pain. ----------------------------------- SiR-ROUND Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:51 pm ----------------------------------- Hence not giving a #%$^ standing in the middle of a gasstation blowing up... :mrgreen: You have to do better than that. If he wouldn't sense pain he wouldn't protect his live tissue... ----------------------------------- robohell Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:07 pm ----------------------------------- Hence not giving a #%$^ standing in the middle of a gasstation blowing up... :mrgreen: You have to do better than that. If he wouldn't sense pain he wouldn't protect his live tissue... When the gass station blew up he didn't fly 20 feet in the air and land on his head He was just feeling intense heat, plus it was external and that suit is tough as hell. so perhaps the painsensors give Robo the feeling of pain a whole lot more when it's internal damage. could that explain the scream when Clarence spears him through the chest? ----------------------------------- Josh Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:18 pm ----------------------------------- I think he can only feel pain when hit under the armour and in certain places. For example, we know one of his arms is completely mechanical so he wouldn't feel pain there, whereas in the torso he may have some rganics that, when hit, do cause physical pain. But then again, you could argue that it is psychological as when Clarence said "Sayonara RoboCop" Robo seemed to forget about the pain and attack Clarence. Maybe the mentioning of him being Robo made him realise that he cannot be hurt, or at least too badly... ----------------------------------- Lizzeh Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:38 pm ----------------------------------- I think it would be a rather dangerous design flaw if Robo couldn't feel pain. Like robohell said, if he didn't, he would just keep going and going until he got completely destroyed if he didn't feel anything. Whether he feels pain in the traditional sense I don't know, but I should think that's there's definately some kind of signal reaching him saying THIS IS BROKEN when he gets injured. As for the scream when Clarence attacks him, it could be due to pain, desperation or anger. Been a while since i've seen robocop 1 so I can't quite remember what it sounds like, but Robo seems to have emotions and any of those would be aaaaah worthy :P ----------------------------------- Josh Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:52 pm ----------------------------------- I don't think the whole 'he would keep walking' thing would happen. He probably has a range of apparatus to let him know of any problems that he might have. He would also probably be monitored so the technicians could call him in when they feel he needs repairs, or maybe he could make a judgment and go in himself... ----------------------------------- Bambi Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:24 am ----------------------------------- That's the point I was making earlier, I should imagine OCP had the technology to allow RoboCop not to feel pain but sense when anything dangerous is near that could damage him. But when he moves all the steel off him at the end of RoboCop 1, he screams which clearly indicates muscle hurting as he moves it, so I guess he feels pain. ----------------------------------- tsu Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:28 pm ----------------------------------- I dunno if anybody mentioned about this, but I'm really curious (if we're talking about scene with Clarence and Murphy in the water) how would be possible that Clarence with his human hand and human strenght could punctured Robo's armature when sometimes even bullet cannot? I think is logic that bullet fired from the gun has much more bigger force than man's hands... ----------------------------------- ed302 Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:07 pm ----------------------------------- im crazy tho i think machines in general feel pain like my car... :wink: ----------------------------------- Nika Silwerra Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:12 pm ----------------------------------- of course Tsu we are talking about the same scene .. ouu and about the armour it is very easy why Clerence could stab him with the bar .. If you remember a few mins ago had the Robocop fight with the ED-209 and yeah ED made on his armour the damage on right side .. and Clerence just hit the right place :wink: of course interesting opinions boys and girls of course .. as for the pain the same we can to see also in the R2 .. ouu and who says he does not feel the pain here a proofs . I doubt we could to see this emotions if the Robocop was totally without the pain as the Terminator for example ..ou and the Robocop is part man .. so I think he has not from the Murphy just the face , brain and tissue but just also many emotions as anger ,joy and etc and also pain ...ouu and also in this is a different between the Robocop and Terminator ( damn i really dont know why many folks mix these two characters together ) http://genserver.klacno.sk/nika/pain1.jpg http://genserver.klacno.sk/nika/pain2.jpg http://genserver.klacno.sk/nika/pain3.jpg hmm but is interesting in the R3, TV series , or PD we really had not such scenes and really less of the emotions of Robocop .. hmm or just Weller was the actor who played or wanted the pain ?! :roll: ----------------------------------- chaos one Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:08 pm ----------------------------------- I was wondering why he screamed so much in that scene in part 2. I mean it's not only embarassing in front of cains men but also indicating that they're actually hurting him. Especially cutting into him which was making him cringe and then scream in pain. LOL @ oil splattered on his face. I always laugh at that. ----------------------------------- Sgt. Reed Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:26 am ----------------------------------- hmm but is interesting in the R3, TV series , or PD we really had not such scenes and really less of the emotions of Robocop .. hmm or just Weller was the actor who played or wanted the pain ?! :roll: Propably because they all sucked... Chaos welcome on board! He does have some kinda pain receptors as mentioned in Robocop 2. I bet you'd scream and cringe in pain in front of anybody if someone would cut into you with a powerdrill or something. :? ----------------------------------- chaos one Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:14 am ----------------------------------- Well sure, I guess. But I wouldn't sound like weller though, he's the best at that. ----------------------------------- Sgt. Reed Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:06 am ----------------------------------- we know one of his arms is completely mechanical so he wouldn't feel pain there Theyre both mechanical. :roll: Robo1? "We were able to save the left arm." "What?! I thought we agreed on total body prosthesis now lose the arm." Just catched my eye there... lol ----------------------------------- SiR-ROUND Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:29 am ----------------------------------- He could just scream because of the idea that they are taking him apart. I mean, it could be a bit traumatic, especially if it happened before to ur real body. ----------------------------------- tsu Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:32 am ----------------------------------- Robo seemed to forget about the pain and attack Clarence. Maybe the mentioning of him being Robo made him realise that he cannot be hurt, or at least too badly... Hm, I don't think it was the reason. To my eyes it was just a reaction for danger. For example, if you're chased by the dog you even don't know, in normal circumstances, how fast you are able to run with no pain in your muscles, in your legs. Or how strong you may be if somebody attacking you. A Human being in danger is able to do a lot of things he cannot do, or he don't know he can, in normal situation. It's an instinct to survive - an animal is able to snap off its leg to get out of the trap, and it obviously feels horrible pain there, SOMEWHERE inside its organism and brain, but for a while the pain or thoughts about pain are "blocked". Same situation with us - people. We are able to "block" our sense of pain automatically, e.g. epinephrine may do this but I'm not sure. So I think it was a simply Murphy's reaction and his human part - a reaction for dangerous situation and anger, as well, when he saw Boddicker's face and heard his voice saying about his death - once again. It was a human reaction, in my opinion. in the R3 we really had not such scenes and really less of the emotions of Robocop Hm, I remember a scene between Robocop and that little girl Nikko, when he realized her parents are dead. She put her head on Murphy's knee and he started to stroke her hair. There was a bit of emotions anyway. Or maybe more than a bit. The same in moment when Lewis died (why, why they had to kill her; or maybe why they didn't make a female Robocop version, hehe, she was a good cop too). ----------------------------------- EC-209 Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:48 am ----------------------------------- In robocop 1, the doctor tells Bob Morton that they could save the left arm. He replies," I thought we agreed on full body prostheses, now lose the arm." So according to this quote, besides his human brain, I don't think he has any other human organs. Since robo began regaining old memories of of his human self. It could just be his human mind responding to an injury. However since he is a robot he is not experiencing any real pain. Just my thoughts. :huhwhat: ----------------------------------- tsu Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:04 am ----------------------------------- I don't think he has any other human organs As I read in the Ed Naha's novel, Robo has a human skin on a face and a human eye. And I read about blood there as well. If he has a blood, he need to have some veins too. ----------------------------------- Kenjamin Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:15 am ----------------------------------- If we count Frank Miller's RoboCop as canon, then I can shed some light. In the comic RoboCop resists all the junk directives, and Love's (Faxx's) way of making him obey is sending pain signals to his nerves. Oh, and I've done a little something with your discipline systems. Seems your architects left a surprising number of Alex Murphy's nerve endings intact. Alive. You can feel a lot of pain. Just our little way of reminding you that when you're anti-social, you're only hurting yourself. ----------------------------------- Nika Silwerra Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:07 am ----------------------------------- As I read in the Ed Naha's novel, Robo has a human skin on a face and a human eye. And I read about blood there as well. If he has a blood, he need to have some veins too. that is right .. and the books are written according the original script from Neumier ! If is this the original idea and we can read here about these Robocop s feelings and also about the pain , so why discuss continually ?! Neumeier with Miner created the character with all emotions and nature and if the " pain " is in the story it will be probably truth ! Although we had chance to see a hint of the pain just in R1 and R2 ----------------------------------- Josh Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:51 pm ----------------------------------- If we count Frank Miller's RoboCop as canon, then I can shed some light. In the comic RoboCop resists all the junk directives, and Love's (Faxx's) way of making him obey is sending pain signals to his nerves. But thats the problem, we cannot count it as canon. While it is indeed a better version and the original script, the actual film will remain canon over Miller's vision... ----------------------------------- EC-209 Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:44 am ----------------------------------- If we count Frank Miller's RoboCop as canon, then I can shed some light. In the comic RoboCop resists all the junk directives, and Love's (Faxx's) way of making him obey is sending pain signals to his nerves. But thats the problem, we cannot count it as canon. While it is indeed a better version and the original script, the actual film will remain canon over Miller's vision... I agree with RoboDuck. Any other comic, novel, or script that isn't on film. You can not use to determine if robo feels pain or not. Even, stupiditly, robocop3 counts. I'd say that Bob Morton's quote ( see my other post above) seems the most promising to our question of if he feels pain or not. Why don't we ask robo how he feels? Robo. After all the bullets, fighting, and abuse you've taken how do you feel? http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/celedon123/2.jpg Robo,"Lets step outside an i'll show you." ----------------------------------- Tazzy Murphy Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:30 am ----------------------------------- My take is this.... Robocop is not just a Robot he's a Cyborg. He has a human brain , romanticly speaking people say "it comes from my heart" but in all reality it is the brain that produces both phyical and emotional pain. Robo always had little flicks of memories.. those he couldn't place until Lewis helped him fully remember. I beleive the soul of the man still exsisted and with all these things combined, soul, brain, memories equalling emotions, he most definitly can feel pain. Anyone who has ever been in love can tell you emotional pain hurts just as much as physical pain... then there is also whats known as phantom pain... I'll leave that for my next chapter ;) ----------------------------------- Sgt. Reed Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:37 am ----------------------------------- Good point, Tazzy. But I still say he feels actual pain as well. As mentioned in Robocop 2. ----------------------------------- Tazzy Murphy Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:57 am ----------------------------------- Good point, Tazzy. But I still say he feels actual pain as well. As mentioned in Robocop 2. I've been thinking ( Did you smell the smoke? :lol: ) They, the Dr's must have left some skelete; remains in Robo since they at first left his one good arm attached...given that doesn't it make sense that at least the spinal colum, brain stem and brain were all left intact giving him the nevers to the brain to feel physical if not phantom pain. And I beleive it would have to be Phantom pain because all the limbs were removed. ----------------------------------- Sgt. Reed Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:00 pm ----------------------------------- I hate debating with people who are smarter than me. :ohdear: ----------------------------------- Skeith Fri May 23, 2008 8:00 am ----------------------------------- Hmmm. Just came to my mind - remember whew Bob Morton told everyone what Robocop is eating? We would never see him eat anything afterwards, but it indicated that he has more organic components, than brain, tissue and skin... This could mean that he can in fact feel pain, but only in the torso, because arms and legs are fully mechanical as indicated when he was disassembled in R2. (Though I noticed that the legs had some reflexes too (when them throwed him from the car in R2). Hmmm.) Johnson: --Tastes like baby food Lewis: --And I brought you some food. EDITED. Thanks for reminding the name ----------------------------------- SiR-ROUND Fri May 23, 2008 1:40 pm ----------------------------------- OCP worker? OCP WORKER? Johnson, GDMN! :mrgreen: ----------------------------------- RoboFan_93 Fri May 23, 2008 5:29 pm ----------------------------------- Sure he feels pain! After all "We're only human!" :wink:. As mentioned there really were scenes which talked about/showed it, so I guess there's no place for a "no" answer. To me the best scene where he gets hurt is when Hedgehog's team attacks him outside OCP. ----------------------------------- Law Giver Fri May 23, 2008 7:45 pm ----------------------------------- I would say yes for the movies, although I doubt it'll be realistic. ----------------------------------- chaos one Fri May 23, 2008 11:11 pm ----------------------------------- Wasn't he in a lot of pain when he was being electrocuted in R2? He seemed o scream a lot about it. ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Fri May 23, 2008 11:22 pm ----------------------------------- I don't really remember him screaming, he was more like moaning. Although I'm sure it wasn't that comfortable. :b Simply put, I'd say if you could damage him enough he'd feel some pain.. ----------------------------------- Wilson Sat May 24, 2008 6:51 pm ----------------------------------- Simply put, I'd say if you could damage him enough he'd feel some pain.. As in R1 when Clarence sticks a steel stick into his left 'chest' ? ----------------------------------- Fiwhiz Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:37 pm ----------------------------------- When Clarence Shoves The steal Rod Into Robocop He is hurting so it must be pain... Physical We all Know Robocop Feels alot of mental pain from his trama. ----------------------------------- LouisRocks12 Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:58 pm ----------------------------------- If you were cut in half with a saw you would be feeling pain too! ----------------------------------- RobbieValiant Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:53 pm ----------------------------------- I believe he feels pain when the organic parts are damaged, but for the mechanical parts, he just has structural integrity or other such sensors. Like, if, say, an arm was being damaged- crushed, whatever- structural integrity readings go down, and he puts less trust in that one working entirely correctly. But if something organic- like, say, a cut in the facial area, or a stab that gets to the remaining organs under the armor, he will feel as pain. ----------------------------------- supes2705 Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:17 pm ----------------------------------- So when he has the spike ramed into his heart for a second he screams out BUT wqhen Bodicakar says "Now your not a robo" Murphy then clicks and forgets the "pain" and reacts with a blow to the neck! :D Dude.. :ohdear: it's "Sayonara, Robocop." Damn I thought it was always "so your not a robocop" hence when he clarence is hurting robo I thought it makes sence, reminds me of that scene on batman returns where the batmobile isnt working properly, and he's trying to get the batmobile to go into missle mode to fit through the narrow gap and I never could work out what he said just before he went through, but I found out it was "alright now im a little worried" ----------------------------------- NOF Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:20 pm ----------------------------------- All I say is, watch (if you can stomach it) the dismatling sequence from R2). Then watch him surrounded by cops as he lies in bits on the ground. There's the answer. ----------------------------------- SiR-ROUND Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:39 am ----------------------------------- Nah, there he's just ashamed because his fellow cops can see his private parts... ----------------------------------- supes2705 Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:24 am ----------------------------------- Nah, there he's just ashamed because his fellow cops can see his private parts... True true ----------------------------------- KidGoesWild Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:45 am ----------------------------------- My take is this.... Robocop is not just a Robot he's a Cyborg. He has a human brain , romanticly speaking people say "it comes from my heart" but in all reality it is the brain that produces both phyical and emotional pain. Exactly. Robo DOES feel pain. Why? simple as that - he has a brain. And like the quote above said, its brain thats responsible for pain and has the pain sensors. Now, we know from R2 that he also has nerves as stated by his technicians (and they also clearly say he feels pain). Nerves are responsible for touch and pain. Brain cant be by itself, there has to be a spine there and spine contains all the nerve and spinal chords. And since the brain isnt there just cause its cool this way but its actually connected to the body and controls it, it feels pain just like any human being would. The spine and brain are connected to the mechanisms of the body responsible for movement and commands, so if those mechanisms are touched or hit, he feels pain like if we do when our body is hurt because the nerves and brain are connected to it like they are to our muscles and organism. Simple logic and biology. Also note when Clarence moves the spike around it hurts Robo even more Another thing is that its a storytelling device. Robocop (at leats in the first two movies) is a man/conciousness of a man trapped in a machine. He looks like a machine, but his mind and personality and HUMANITY is still there. Its easier to connect with and feel for the character if he seems like us, feels pain, anger etc. And now of course R3 comes in and confuses the hell out of everything cause Robo doesnt feel pain or any human emotions at all in that movie. When his arm gets cut off and even when he gets hit by a grenade he just acts like plain robot with blank expression and zero emotions (even when Lewis dies he remains calm!!) ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:08 am ----------------------------------- I think by now we've certainly got your point that R3 is shit. :b Other than that, well reasoned and explained, I'd say. :wink: ----------------------------------- KidGoesWild Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:10 am ----------------------------------- I think by now we've certainly got your point that R3 is shit. :b :lol: yeah, I gotta give it a little break. But I had to mention it here since its a part of the trilogy and some could use it as a contrargument since in this one he doesnt feel any pain (or anything else for that matter) ----------------------------------- Swedish Robot Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:06 am ----------------------------------- And now of course R3 comes in and confuses the hell out of everything cause Robo doesnt feel pain or any human emotions at all in that movie. When his arm gets cut off and even when he gets hit by a grenade he just acts like plain robot with blank expression and zero emotions (even when Lewis dies he remains calm!!) He expresses some sorrow, but yea, the pain thing gets ignored. Also, in the series he gets nailed with a grenade and.. well, he just takes it like a bitch. Sadly enough I think Alpha Commando handled it better than either of those two. I didn't read through all this but.. if his brain receives any impulse, how could his brain distinguish it from damage or pain? Really, pain is a sense of damage. It's a survival trait. Children born with neurological disorders that don't feel pain often injure themselves and have to be watched carefully. Fuck, even the terminator implies it feels pain.. ----------------------------------- KidGoesWild Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:17 am ----------------------------------- if his brain receives any impulse, how could his brain distinguish it from damage or pain? Really, pain is a sense of damage. Well, thats right - you answered your own question. Since the brain HAS TO be connected to the CPU and basic mechanisms in order to at least partially controll them, if those are hit or damaged, he feels pain. Just like you said To support that: note that he doesnt feel pain when his external parts are damaged, like when his armor gets ripped by ED 209's shots or when his arm gets blown off by Hob. Yet he does react when internal systems are touched - like in R1 when Clarence "nails" him or in R2 when the saw starts to cut through him or when hes getting hit with thousands of volts that run through his entire body - same thing happened in R1 too when his body was electrically shocked when Directive 4 kicked in. He was obviously in pain too, twisting, moaning and screaming in agony. http://www.robocoparchive.com/presskits/robo1-10.jpg