----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:23 am ZOMBIES ----------------------------------- Thats right, the unholy living dead. Reanimated abominations with an insatiable hunger for the flesh of the living, no fear of death, and only one sure method of destruction: the extreme damage or severing of the brain from the body. In some cases a small isolated event, in others a world wide catastrophe with the likes to bring about the end of the world and usher in a state of pure anarchy. An apocalypse. Or as professionals say, a...ZOMB-POCALYPSE! :roll: Yeah anyways, I love zombies. Or should I say, I FUCKING love zombies. A possible catalyst to redemption, brotherhood, and self independence. Or revolution, war, and savagry. I'm really getting too far into this for the intro post so I'll just cut to the chase. Zombies. Love them? Hate them? What's your favorite zombie flick, book, or comic? How obsessed are you with the end of the world? Got a Z-Day plan of escape? Do you wanna know what the fuck's going on or whether or not they're all in there just jerking each other off? ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:38 am ----------------------------------- Personally speaking, I like Zombies just fine after they've gotten a 12-Gauge facial. :b I did like the Dawn of the Dead remake. Otherwise, it's late and I can't think of anything else right now. ----------------------------------- RoboFan_93 Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:46 am ----------------------------------- Zombies are awesome. Everything about them is (well, exept Zombie Strippers) ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:49 am ----------------------------------- My favorite Zombie films: Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Return of the Living Dead, and Shaun of the Dead. I own a hand full of other ones but these are by far the best of the best. And even though it's not technically a zombie film, 28 Days Later. Fuck the sequel (although it has great gore). And thats pretty much where I draw the line with the films. The original Romero trilogy changed my life and no other zombie film comes close to those. And don't even get me started on the remake of Dawn of the Dead. A zombie is a rotting decaying corpse that is naturally falling apart. Things ought to naught work right. IMO that means that running is totally out of the question. Granted it's 1000 times scarier than any Romero zombie though. Books and Comics: Day by Day Armageddon. It's the diary of a nameless protagonist chronicling his life before and during the zomb-pocalypse. If I can recommend any zombie book, it would be that one. The Walking Dead. Don't ask questions, just buy it. So whaddya think? Don't like it? Well give me some shit! I love fighting over zombie movies! Oh and what was your first Zombie film? ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:15 pm ----------------------------------- Deus Zombies are rotting, non running creatures, after they have decomposed for awhile. A fresh zombie could run, although coordination would be a main problem, that's why they are always pretty much falling on people for support while they munch their brains. :D But a zombie could run, I think anyway, before the muscles decayed away, so If somebody just died and turned into one I don't think it is out of the question. Oh yeah playing Zombies on halo 3 is probably the funnest game in the world. I'll get somewhere real dumb, like up on a light in rat race where there is only one way to get to me and really make some zombies howl. ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:20 pm ----------------------------------- And don't even get me started on the remake of Dawn of the Dead. A zombie is a rotting decaying corpse that is naturally falling apart. Things ought to naught work right. IMO that means that running is totally out of the question. Granted it's 1000 times scarier than any Romero zombie though. I thought it was pretty good. Now, I'm no big zombie lover (then again I haven't actually met any yet.. :b), but I think zombies are supposed to be terrifying. And as you've even said, those zombies are scary. I think running at you as fast as a dog instead of limping like a drunk 95 year old make them scarier in some way. Just me though. :wink: ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:58 pm ----------------------------------- I think Zombies in real life would be pretty damn scary. Imagine you're laying in your bed late at night and some creepy ass person starts bumping into the side of your bedroom wall. Just milling around "drunkenly" against the side of your house. All the while moaning and making disgusting sounds. You all by yourself with nothing but your already wildly running imagination. You call the cops, they can't get out to your house, not enough units. So now you have to go out there in the dark and tell this "guy" to fuck off. And you all know what happens from there. That would be pretty intense. Personally I think that would be pretty scary. Some slow moving fear inducing puss bag. With the ability to seep into the deepest recess of your brain and spread fear and a general sense of dread/disgusting-ness. I subscribe to the fact that the fresher you are as a zombie, the faster and more capable you are at moving around and killing people. But full blown olympic sprinting? Come on. If you're going to go the fast route, go with "Infected" people like in 28 Days Later. One word of dialogue can change the meaning of an entire film. Ridiculous sprinting corpses? Or plausible full throttle "infected PCP addicts" that throw up diseased blood? (that sounds a little funny but you know what I mean). Yeah a running "zombie" is scarier. but at what cost? A bunch of disgusting slow moving rot sacks that take the time to get into your head, nose, ears, and soul? Eventually driving you slowly insane before they eat you? Or a bunch of rotting olympians that once they spot you, they haul ass and kill you? Now now now, fast fast fast, kill kill kill. You barely have enough time to get scared. You'll be frightened simply because it's coming at you so fast. Which is actually pretty scary, but has no substance to it what so ever. Which tells you a lot about the society we live in today. Nobody's patient enough to be creeped out anymore and we have to have it right now. And be snappy about it. Don't take the time to enjoy it, cut straight to the chase. It's not the journey or the thrill of the hunt, it's the prize at the end. The kill. Put it this way, which type of zombie would you want to be devoured alive by? Someone who will burst in, scare you for a few seconds kill you quickly and eat you? Or someone (there would have to be more than one I admit) who will force there way in, make there way towards you, giving you the time to run around the room you're in and realize that there is no escape, have time to regret and feel doom, then be slowly eaten to death? You decide :wink: ----------------------------------- supes2705 Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:20 am ----------------------------------- The slow zombies are best, my motto with zombies is one way or another they will get you, they always outnumber you, no matter how far you go or how fast you move ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:34 pm ----------------------------------- Well, good points. It's funny - I too usually dislike that everything has to be a rush, kind of like you said. I don't know, though. I've just never been really scared by deliberate movement in most cases. But, you've put it - Add the numbers and sheer creep factor though, and yeah, you definitely got something with the slow ones. All the fast ones mainly got is the speed. Scary yes, but admittedly just not the same. Hell, even individual slow zombies can scare plenty when done right. A good case that I remember would be those bastards in Doom III. I've just never been a big horror guy, so I ain't ever been much into zombies either way. I certainly don't care for either form of zombie death, also. :b ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:41 pm ----------------------------------- We can also not forget that for a zombie to take you over and be real scary you have to ba a little mentally challenged and make probably the worst decisions possible when they are after you just like in every zombie movie. :lol: Zombies are alot scarier when you are the dumbest person on the planet, going to the dumbest places for safety and making super foolish decisions, like I just said like every character in a zombie flick. But it still wouldn't be hard to be taken over by a swarm of them, that's why you hijack yourself a tank or other vehicle of the sort, and get used to calling it home. Oh yeah it also doesn't hurt to be that one person in the world who is immune to the whole turning into a zombie when bitten deal. Would zombies crave robocop's brain as well, how could he fare against a hoard of decomposing creeps? I can see it now, Dead or........dead you're coming with me......Dead then. :D ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:53 am ----------------------------------- Hell, even individual slow zombies can scare plenty when done right. A good case that I remember would be those bastards in Doom III. Anyone play Half-Life 2 or any of it's subsequent 'Episodes'? Great zombie moments in that game too. I've just never been a big horror guy, so I ain't ever been much into zombies either way. Horror, I've never really been a fan of. I don't even like Jason and Freddy movies. It too easily can turn into just a gore and tits film with nothing meaningful driving it. Just an excuse to see blood. And don't get me started on these modern horror shit fests everyone flocks to go see. You know what I'm talking about, all those LionsGate films that came out after Saw 1 hit theaters. They all look the same, use the same 'scare tactics', have the same plots, and have all the same characters. It sickens me. Now they've gone down hill even more, Modern Horror Remakes. Friday the Thirteenth, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc. They're even going to destroy The Wolfman and the Creature from the Black Lagoon. :ohdear: To me, there are only a handful of good horror films out there. In fact, I don't even consider zombie films horror. At least the good ones that take themselves seriously (Night, Dawn, Day, 28 Days). They just have too much stuff going on to be called a primitive "horror/gore/scare fest". We can also not forget that for a zombie to take you over and be real scary you have to ba a little mentally challenged and make probably the worst decisions possible when they are after you just like in every zombie movie. :lol: Zombies are alot scarier when you are the dumbest person on the planet, going to the dumbest places for safety and making super foolish decisions, like I just said like every character in a zombie flick. And that's why most horror films suck eggs. Personally, I would think there are enough challenges and bad situations in a "zomb-pocalypse" for even level headed people to fall victim to. Zombies are real (lets say they are of the slow variety), what do you do? "Well I'd get me a fuckin shotgun!" Okay, have you ever fired a gun before? (I find that most people who say that have not. Me included) You could injure yourself or others. Or worse, not know where the safety is and die like a noob. What if it jams? Or gets zombie brains inside the barrel and needs to be cleaned? Once you do fire that gun off, it's going to create a lot of noise. Which will most likely attract more and more zombies to your location. Thus creating a swarm and the means to your end. You could even attract other people who might not be on the same side as you are. Does the saying "Every man for himself" ring a bell? Where would you go? Who would you take with you? What about food? Water? Medical supplies? What about infection? Do you think it would only happen to you if you got bit? What if after blowing the brains out of a walking corpse, the sudden evacuation of blood and goo splattered all over your face. Entering your eyes, mouth, and any open cuts/wounds you might have. This would be a health hazard even if the zombie virus/condition wasn't blood borne. Hell, just having rotting human corpses walking about is a health hazard. Perhaps you have to jump over a fence or a gap between rooftops? Most fat, lazy, and average people aren't used to this and might make mental and physical mistakes while performing these untrained movements. The thing is, a zombie apocalypse is going to create a lot of situations most people cannot handle or are used to doing. The majority of people aren't used to doing these physically demanding activities let alone fending for themselves without the aid of super markets and 7-11's. Would zombies crave robocop's brain as well, how could he fare against a hoard of decomposing creeps? I can see it now, Dead or........dead you're coming with me......Dead then. :D How awesome would it have been if RoboCop made an appearance in 'Marvel Zombies'? After all he did have his own Marvel series for a while. Just because you're pretty much part of a brain and some other organic chunks doesn't mean that they can't become zombified. Am I right? ----------------------------------- supes2705 Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:11 am ----------------------------------- I always have daydreams of a zombie apocalypse, with me running round the Metrocentre (the largest shopping and leisure centre in the European Union) and it just happens to be in my town, pitty theres no gun shops =( ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:32 pm ----------------------------------- ^ Haha! USA wins again! :b As for the 'Grab a fuckin shotgun - omigod you could shoot yourself, or not even shoot it at all, people lie about shooting guns, blah blah' - Lucky for me, I actually have shot a few guns. A Mossberg 590 pump shotgun included. In fact, that was one of the first firearms I've shot. Felt quite nice. :) It's safety consists of a simple switch on the top-back of the receiver, behind the rear sight. But, I know that, and your typical human probably doesn't, indeed. Too bad for them. :b Bah. Seriously, all those extra details just make this thing depressing. :roll: By your understanding, what you're saying is nobody would have a chance in hell. So do tell me how you got all that shit figured out yourself, Mr. Buzzkill? I guess the point is that, just like being a gangsta, or smoking dope, Zombie Apocalypses just aren't fun, kids. :wink: ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:51 pm ----------------------------------- By your understanding, what you're saying is nobody would have a chance in hell. So do tell me how you got all that shit figured out yourself, Mr. Buzzkill? I don't mean to be depressing and killing your buzz, but thats why they call it an apocalypse. Not many people are supposed to survive. But yeah, I get way too into this shit. I've been on my share of zombie forums. And I consider myself to be one of the sane ones. And personally I think I would do okay in the zombie apocalypse. For a while :? . My plan, stealth. But in the long run or even surviving? I'm as good as dead. But bring it on I say. That would be one hell of a morbid adventure before I died. As for guns, I legally can't own one till I'm 30 (I'm 21 so far). Long story short, battery. Ironically, my 16 y/o sister is a crack shot. Man, I'm trying so hard not to turn this post into another essay here. So, first zombie movie you ever saw? Or anything. There's plenty to talk about on the subject of the flesh eating undead. http://www.deadsource.com/daysounds/theyredead.mp3 ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:40 am ----------------------------------- You are right most people aren't supposed to survive, and accidents can happen, but I know that I would be one of the alpha humans left, unless I got fucked over somehow from like you said, the god damn bloodspray from a shot I deliver to their medula oblongada The bottom line is some people are more coordinated and better problem solvers than others. Survival of the fittest takes a firm grasp in this situation. Best way to survive, befriend as many Green berets, Rangers, and seals that you can, learn all you can from them and stick close with them. That is your best chance for survival. :devious: ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:42 pm ----------------------------------- Yeah, all I'm saying is that the Zomb-pocalypse wouldn't be exactly as we all picture it in our zombie killing fantasies. I think it would be a lot quieter and tense. Like a game of hide and go seek chess. You make one little wrong move, and that idea you had holding your escape plan together gets pulled out and a myriad of shit gets dropped on you. Especially from directions you didn't even see coming. A game of cat and mouse, surrounded by enviromental hazards and flesh eating undead. Stealth would be key I think. Keeping your presence unknown to the undead and other humans would be the best way to go. You can't trust most humans, especially in times of "disaster". Firing guns would definitely be an "attractor" and therefore a last resort. On another zombie forum, I became aware of using other items and weapons that have multiple uses. Like instead of using some sword you found, you can use a crowbar instead. It has the ability to bash/crack open a zombie skull and you can pry open doors and windows with it (amongst other things). So you would have a weapon and a tool and not have to carry all the extra weight. Things like that. So yeah, a Zombie Post Apocalyptic World (ZPAW) would definitely be thinking man's game. That might make it less fun for some, but it's definitely more interesting/involving. Best to take care of your mental state as it would pay off to be thinking clearly when it comes time to problem solve. AARGH! BRING ON THE ZPAW! And don't forget to take your Ginkgo Biloba tablets kids! :wink: ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:30 am ----------------------------------- Deus you are officially obsessed with zombies. ----------------------------------- supes2705 Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:50 am ----------------------------------- Deus you are officially obsessed with zombies. Me too, another fantasy me and friends talk about is getting up on a large building and sniping off zombies =D ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:08 am ----------------------------------- Deus are you trying to say that you haven't watched zombieland yet. I figured with your current career path you would have seen it and been reporting to the clan about it by now. Me and My brother will be going to see it this weekend. Gotta love ol' Woody. ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:45 am ----------------------------------- Demise, you under estimate my zombie senses. I've since been working at a local theatre and have already snagged a Zombieland poster. Ya know, just in case it turns out good :wink: And then a few days ago I sat down and viddied it for free. Not that I don't have my general non zombie complaints, but it was a good movie and I would see it again (for free of course. thats one perk I'll never get tired of). Starts off strong, kind of weans in the middle, and then comes back around in the end (though not as good as the beginning). Obviously it's not about realism, but comedy. It's really just a flick that centers around the "excess" of living in a dead/abandoned world. One thing I will say, Michael Cera is watching this movie and saying "My whole acting career has just been raped." ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:03 am ----------------------------------- So I just found out that Night of the Living Dead is being remade again for a THIRD time. So far all I know is that it's Canadian and it's coming out sometime this year. Woo :| When will illegitimate film makers learn to stop raping the public domain! Show of hands who think they've learned their lesson? Shame, shame...:ohdear: Well they're remaking it AGAIN! Only this time it's going to be an animated CGI film. It's called Night of the Living Dead: Origins 3D and says that it's a prequel as well as a retelling. Whatever.:puzzled: It's also set in New York rather than Pennsylvania. Which I have to say is actually interesting. At least they're trying to do something different with it. Here's a "Test Render": http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/138socal/Origins.jpg Looks okay I guess. I'm willing to over look shitty CGI as long as everything else is worth my time. But what the hell am I talking out? It's a damn REMAKE. Fucking modern cinema.:pissed: An interesting little tid bit: the actors doing the voices for Ben and Johnnie are the same actors that portrayed them in Tom Savini's "George Romero Approved" 1990 remake. -------------------------------------- Some good news (sort of): "In 2009, Legend Films coproduced a colorized 3-D version of the film with PassmoreLab, a company that converts 2-D film into 3-D format. This version will receive a full theatrical release in Europe, followed by a limited theatrical release in the United States" I really don't give a shit about 3D and I really don't like fucking with and/or tweaking old films, but it'll be cool to see NOTLD on the big screen. -------------------------------------- Oh, and some up to date news of George Romero's new "...of the Dead" film. It's now finally been officially titled "George A. Romero's Survival of the Dead". Which I have to say is still pretty lame in my book. Romero is kind of becoming a parody of himself now a days. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/138socal/Survival_of_the_Dead.jpg "It is the sixth film in Romero's "Dead" series. The film was released on DVD on March 15, 2010 in the United Kingdom. In the United States it will be released on April 30 2010 for Video on Demand and a theatrical release on May 28." ~ Wikipedia It will probably be another flaccid attempt at his own genre, but the old bastard changed my life and I'll be there in line May 28th somewhere in LA, it being probably the only theatre in California it is shown. Much like the theatrical release of his last film "Diary of the Dead". http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/138socal/DiaryoftheDead.jpg Hell yeah, straight from the only theatrical release in CA! Taken on a crap-tastic camera phone (RIP). ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Sun May 30, 2010 1:47 am ----------------------------------- http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o199/138socal/downsize2.jpg So I went to the midnight show of "opening day" last night. Again it was at the same theatre as last time. Pounded some beer on the car ride up promising to be the DD on the drive home. They raffled off some Survival of the Dead posters signed by Romero himself and then they played old retro trailers before hand. It was pretty awesome. And then the movie started. Long story short, it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. I dare say I'd rather watch RoboCop 3 than this pile of retarded giraffe shit. Story, acting, dialogue were the worst I've seen in years. The zombies weren't even good. Make up effects were almost unnoticeable and horrible when there was enough to see them. Most if not all gore effects were all low budget CGI which looked absolutely ridiculous. Like they were done with Windows 95. And were almost cartoony to a point. Sigh......I could go on for a good while picking this turd apart but it's just too depressing. I mean, I was expecting a bad movie, but this was just too much. All I know is that George Romero has officially gone senile. He's not even operating in normal reality anymore. And I'm pretty sure there were a million people in connection to this film that just nodded their heads and said "Yes George, that's amazing George, can I get a picture George?". Romero needs to be put out of his misery. ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Sun May 30, 2010 2:47 am ----------------------------------- God Damn Romero! What has happened? Land of the dead was by him too right? I think I remember barely being able to sit through diary. It was real bad. How do you fuck up a franchise like that. His movies should be getting better, not worse. By the way Romero is Stan Lee, I'm pretty sure. ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Sun May 30, 2010 5:01 am ----------------------------------- I don't know, how bad has Lee gotten? He just seems like a slightly crazy nice old guy. I love his cameos. ----------------------------------- Stan The Man Sun May 30, 2010 5:10 am ----------------------------------- The mere point that you said you'd almost watch R3 over it tells me all I need to know. Bah. :| ----------------------------------- RoboDemise Sun May 30, 2010 7:46 pm ----------------------------------- I don't know, how bad has Lee gotten? He just seems like a slightly crazy nice old guy. I love his cameos. I was only referring to looks, nothing else. Here take a looky. Romero http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab158/crackedtopicpics/romero_old.jpg Stan Lee http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af349/ImpendingDemise/StanLee.jpg Ehh, I just usually see them for seconds or something so it always seems they look the same. ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Sun May 30, 2010 9:53 pm ----------------------------------- Senile ol Romero. He looks so nice! But I know.....I know what he's really about...... ----------------------------------- Deus Ex Robo Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:35 pm ----------------------------------- DP Part Deux! AMC, the same people who brought you brilliant shows such as "Breaking Bad", have come together to turn Robert Kirkman's ongoing comic series "The Walking Dead" into a television program. Directed by the same guy who did The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption and produced by someone who either produced Aliens or Terminator 2. With special effects done by KNB Effects (Greg Nicotero of Day of the Dead and Land of the Dead), this is looking to be one hell of a god damn show. As a reader of the comics, this looks to follow the source material quite closely while also adapting it freely to suit additional action and drama. The 90min premiere debuts Halloween night. I wanna say around 10pm. I think this is really going to kick some major ass. And with out further adieu, the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub8FXMPT7oU ----------------------------------- Wearfare Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:51 pm ----------------------------------- Dawn of the Dead was pretty good, I'll be honest, I just realised where the inspiration of 'DeadRising' came from. I also wondered what it was like for zombies to go shopping, it just made me think when the mall was overrun with a whole heap of them. Also, the last lines from the survivors in Dawn of the Dead were just amazing...it's like they don't care any more, they just want to leave now. "How much fuel have we got?" "Not a lot to get us far." "You know what, fuck it." (Fly off in the copter) So yeah, Dawn Of The Dead was great stuff, not like the remake, I doubt it's anything like the original.