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Robo-Vader

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:04 am


Would a RvT work?

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Would a Robocop vs. Terminator movie work?
I think if they do something like Beowulf but make the Arnold Terminator look more realistic it'd be a good way to revive the Robocop franchise. As long as it dosen't suck like the first Alien vs. Predator.


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ElectricSoul

Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:39 pm



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i think it would kick ass!   it would have to be epic in scale,though....and use the comics as a blueprint...they got it right.....

i'd have a geekgasm watching Robo and an ED-209 shooting away at a group of Terminator's coming right at them...


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RoboFan_93

Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:50 pm



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If they do it right and follow the comic, it should be good.


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Justice

Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:52 pm



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Robocop vs Terminator would be awesome... But they better keep it Robo1 style... Because the first Aliens vs Predator(s) was a PG-13 piece of crap. I hope AvP2 is going to leave a footnote in my mind...


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Law Giver

Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:12 pm



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OCP merges with Cyberdyne? Or an entirely unrelated storyline?


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ElectricSoul

Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:12 pm



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OCP merges with Cyberdyne? Or an entirely unrelated storyline?

well,i wouldn't call it a merger......more like a hostile takeover....at gunpoint...with plasma rifles.... :lol:


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Josh

Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:04 am



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I would stick to the comic storyline but maybe change a few things.

And having OCP and Cyberdyne in a corporate war is not a bad idea. It opens up many doors to social sattire.

All you need is Verhoeven and Cameron on board...


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ElectricSoul

Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:13 pm



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I would stick to the comic storyline but maybe change a few things.

And having OCP and Cyberdyne in a corporate war is not a bad idea. It opens up many doors to social sattire.

All you need is Verhoeven and Cameron on board...

that...that could be interesting...OCP made their cyborg.....Cyberdyne is out to prove they can make a better one....and when some Terminator's from the future come to change the past,it all goes to hell...

picture a scene like in "I,Robot"....instead of Will Smith in the car it's RoboCop driving his police cruiser....Cyberdyne transport vehicles box him hin,and open up revealing dozens of T-800's ready to pounce...


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:27 pm



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DJR2096

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:27 pm



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All you need is Verhoeven and Cameron on board...

I don't think that's ever gonna happen.

If we could get on off em, I'd go for for verhoeven.


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Law Giver

Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:50 pm



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Yeah, just throw in Hyperdyne Systems along with Wayland-Yutani.


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:18 pm



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DJR2096 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject:  

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RoboDuck : 
All you need is Verhoeven and Cameron on board... 


I don't think that's ever gonna happen. 

If we could get on off em, I'd go for for verhoeven. 
 

I think this would be a very good movie, if they stay with the comic book storyline!  :mrgreen: 

And we know Robocop is the better "product"!!!
I would also go for Verhoeven, but we must realize that Cameron also did a good job with the terminator!!!  :opps:

But of course, terminator is no match for Robocop  :robo1:


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:25 pm



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All you need is Verhoeven and Cameron on board.

oh yeah .. impossible .. but we can at least to dream !  :) 

why should these two to fight ?! I am not toobit fan of the VS idea ! Maybe if there was a realy good story and not just to see these two for a fight in great effects  :roll:


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:29 pm



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why should these two to fight ?! I am not toobit fan of the VS idea ! Maybe if there was a realy good story and not just to see these two for a fight in great effects  :roll: 

But these two would fight for a cause  :puzzled:

terminator is the bad guy, and Robo is saving humanity  :puzzled:
But thats my prespective....


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Nika Silwerra

Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:42 pm



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why should these two to fight ?! I am not toobit fan of the VS idea ! Maybe if there was a realy good story and not just to see these two for a fight in great effects  :roll: 

But these two would fight for a cause  :puzzled:

terminator is the bad guy, and Robo is saving humanity  :puzzled:
But thats my prespective....

oh yeah also this is truth .. but then I would really like to know the cause ! also the Terminator was good boy in the last two films .oh if the Robocop was winner the Terminator fans would go mad !  :lol:  and my boyfriend as well !


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:54 pm



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well I gess your right  :b 

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
if your boyfriend is a Terminator fan.... that means......

DAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!!  :shock: 

Oh boy..... I guess when they get maried... there is going to be one hell of a battle  :b  (just kidding)  :lol:


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DJR2096

Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:11 pm



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I've seen the R "V" T comics from afar.
What is the story about? Can any of you nice people fill me in?


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Kamen Rider

Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:28 pm



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If a RvsT were to happen (highly unlikely), some things would have to be changed.  Like the whole Murphy being the "father" of Skynet, and maybe change the parts in the Future War.  Like instead of Murphy's body being destroyed and his soul being trapped in the computers for years, and he builds himself a whole army of Robo-Terminators, he could instead go into hiding, and re-emerge during the Future War.  Or just forget the whole Future War part of the story and have it all set in Robocop's present.

You know an alternative to RvsT, would maybe if the right deals could be made, and if Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is a good and successful series, they could maybe try and do a 2 part episode guest starring RoboCop.


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Law Giver

Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:31 pm



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I would just leave it alone. Robocop is terribly slow moving  and not well armored. The Terminators are quicker and have more variants and firepower.


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ElectricSoul

Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:27 pm



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I've seen the R "V" T comics from afar.
What is the story about? Can any of you nice people fill me in?

well,it's been years since i read it,but i'll try to fill in as much as i can remember....

in the future,the resistance discovers that Skynet and the Teminator's came from one source...Alex Murphy! and some point he was linked up to Skynet,and his individuality in a machine casing was the spark that made Skynet self-aware,leading to the war and the horrors that followed...a lone soldier named Flo goes back in time to Detroit.....

In the "present day",RoboCop is still on the beat,and actually harbors suicidal thoughts....out on patrol he is ambushed and destroyed by Flo....in the future,the timeline begins to collapse....Skynet,in desperation,send 3 Terminator's back through time to "restore" things....Flo arrives,again,but is stopped and shot by the Terminators....Robo saves her,and is perplexed as the assassins are not kiled by his bullets,and one has a big,glowing red eye where he took a bullet......in the fiuture,things return to the status quo,and they win the war...the last human is finally disintegrated,a small boy...his body is held up as a trophy of their conquest....with the Earth at peace and "liberated",Skynet turns it's attention outward,creating huge spaceships for millions of Terminator's to go outward into the stars and bring peace and order to all the planets of the galaxy.....in the past,upon interrogation Robo learns of Flo's tale ,and he (with the help of an ED-209) destroy's the terminator's when the come after Flo....he then,already wanting to,commits suicide by walking into a machine press for the "greater good"....in her hospital room,the terminator piece (i think it was an arm?) that was with her and the cops disappears,and she is grateful....she knows he did it....

in the future,chaos again,as the timeine falls apart again...Skynet sends yet another Teminator back,a dog this time.....it reaches Murphy before he kills himself and reveals itself to be a multi-limbed tentacled monstrosity...if "convinces" Murphy to do it's will by severing his head from his body!...back at the police station Flo is being interrogated when all hell breaks loose and the station is attacked...she escapes,and comes across a startling sight:  Robo's chamber,the OCP techs dead on the floor,and Murphy's head being connected to the computer mainframe...he begs her to kill him,but the terminator takes her out...Murphy is then hooked up and uploaded into Skynet's satellite (which is how it exists at this time).....it becomes self-aware,and begins the destruction of the human race...while this happens a part of Murphy breaks off...the human part,compassion,love,etc.....it becomes a virus like "ghost in the machine" and replicates itself over and over again over the decades,staying one step ahead of firewalls and virus protection,until it disovers a weakness...an out of the way,no longer used T-800 plant....it downloads into the computers and starts the factory up again...it brings a T-800 online,downloads his personality and memories into it,refits it with some additional armor pieces,and clones a human face for itself....RoboCop is reborn,as part Terminator,and goes out and helps John Connor's army in battle (although Connor is not present) ,he meets up with Flo,and the survivors are perplexed as to why their dogs seem to ike him...a plan is made...they will strike directly at Skynet's central complex,and destroy the menace once and for all...what follows is a massive battle where te humans fight thousands of Terminator's and are losing,until Murphy works some magic at that old plant and the battle is joined by thousands of Robo-Terminators...the humans win,but Flo is killed,and Murphy encounters Skynet,who wears his face! and tempts him with "human" pleasures like Terminator's that look like naked women to entice him....in the end he resists and destroys skynet once and for all....but he has one last piece of business....in the past,a massive blob of human flesh materializes in downtown Detroit....rocketing out of it is a Robo-Terminator,who flies skyward,up into space,and enables a self destruct device that destroy the Skynet satellite...RoboCop is on the beat and steps on a spot,the eact spot where he was to die...he feels a sense of deja vu,as if something important was to happen,but didn't,then continues walking his beat..in the future,the rimeline changes yet again,and Flo wakes up in a grassy field,surrounded by tall buildings and children playing,and she tries to remember the dream she had...something about metal men and a man named Murphy...

as the timeline collapses,the Terminator's send 1 last machine to the past...they have no time to calculate a date,so it just goes....it arrives in the past,a dog-Terminator,in some heavy trees and plants....it begins to plot,to plan,to calculate what it needs to do to reintroduce Skynet and bring back it's future....then a shadow looms over it,and it is squashed,destroyed....

By the foot of a Tyrannosaurus Rex....

THE END.


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:31 pm



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HOLLY S##IIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!  :shock: 

That was very biiiiiiiiiig post  :shock: 
You must be tired after writting all that!!!
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


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ElectricSoul

Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:34 pm



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HOLLY S##IIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!  :shock: 

That was very biiiiiiiiiig post  :shock: 
You must be tired after writting all that!!!
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

what was harder was trying to REMEMBER all of it!  :lol: 

google was no help,so it was all from memory,so if i screwed something up,please be gentle! :wink:


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Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:42 pm



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That was very impressive  :shock: 

Only for that I think you deserve a Public Trust!!!  :mrgreen: 
From all that hard work  :b


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Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:15 am



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Robocop had a big ass gun in the comics (You'll notice my sig shows this)...so he could fight off a good number of Terminators. Plus he could probably use his technology to figure out the best are to shoot them. And he had ED-209's on his side.


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DJR2096

Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:47 am



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Tar very much for the story. I gave you that public trust too :D 

It's not a bad story.


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Philip17

Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:21 pm



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Nice foto there RoboPimp  :b 

The new look is great  :lol:  "robobucks and women"  :lol:


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Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:01 am



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It would be cool if it was animated. Then they could have the scale and not have to worry about budget as much. And then maybe Weller would be willing to do the voice of Robocop, seeing as he'd not have to get in the suit and all. They could stay true to the comics. I do mean hand-animation of course, not CGI.


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Robo-Vader

Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:02 am



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I think instead of following the comic, it should be this:
A year after Sarah's death, John Connor is in Detroit. But an Arnold Terminator arrives to kill him. Robocop sees the two fighting & decides to help John. John & Robocop barely escapes. In the car, Robocop asks "What was that thing?" & John tells the story of the Terminators & himself. Murphy decides he must protect John in order to save humanity. It goes on sort of like the 3 Terminator movies with Murphy & John encountering & escaping the Terminator. At the end the Terminator is destroyed & we find out Murphy fights in the War against the machines.

Could be good, then maybe  a possible sequel could be another Terminator sent out to destroy Murphy.
I think Terminator fans would understand why Robocop would win. You have to have the good guy win.


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Josh

Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:31 am



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Murphy decides he must protect John in order to save humanity.

Like Terminator 2 but with Robo instead...


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Robo-Vader

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:18 am



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Soooooooorta... But Robocop decides too. The Terminator was programed too.


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Greetings, Everyone.

This is my first post here in the forums.

Personally, I would LOVE to see a Terminator Versus Robocop movie.  [I've usually heard it this way instead of RvT so this is how I'll refer to it.]  I've been a Robocop fan since I first saw the original film in theaters in 1987.  

Of course, I would want Robocop to win if he is fighting for the side of humanity.  For the side of good.  

I've read Frank Miller's TVR comic books (the 4-issue limited series).  It's one of my classic favorites.  

I think a TVR1 movie could TOTALLY work.  If they use Frank Miller's story, great.  I'd be open to an adaptation of it or maybe even a new TVR storyline as well.  

Heck, if Aliens Versus Predator can have AT LEAST two movies, you just know we Robocop fans deserve a TVR movie.  I'd even hope for 3 of them if they can get them right.  

I wonder if there is a way to campaign for a TVR movie.  

The TVR movies on YouTube (fan made) are great.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4LMxEtsNh8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXhio0KVM0g

Kudos to RoboSean as well!

Best wishes,
sidemachine

P.S.  In my humble opinion, it HAS TO be live-action!  I wouldn't want it any other way!


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RoboTrap

Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:21 pm


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Greetings, Everyone.


The comics and all three videogames disagree with you, buddy. :b 

But yes, it has to be live action! 2d animation is still seen as children's entertainment (and I don't think it'd carry the detail necessary for either of these worlds) and CG still has a ways to go before I can consider it to be a serious medium, though at least the entire "CG talking animal" craze has passed.


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Mephisto

Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:40 pm


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though at least the entire "CG talking animal" craze has passed.

Uhhhh.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/mephisto1980/chimp.jpg

You sure about that buddy? :|


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Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:02 pm



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Eh, that fits in the "pointless remake" category (like Underdog or Garfield) more than "furry cg animals having wacky adventures!" thing, IMHO.

And I'm fairly certain that movie's gonna tank. At least I hope it does. What the hell made them think there was a market for that???


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Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:17 pm



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Alvin and The Chipmunks didn't tank... it made $44million in it's opening weekend, coming in second behind Will Smith's I Am Legend which made $75million and is now the highest grossing December release of all time.


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Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:40 pm



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Alvin and The Chipmunks didn't tank... it made $44million in it's opening weekend, coming in second behind Will Smith's I Am Legend which made $75million and is now the highest grossing December release of all time. 

:ohdear: 

Thought it released next weekend. That's shameful, America. You should know better than that!


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RVT versus TVR

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RoboTrap20xx,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention!  Holy crap!  Shows you how skewed my perception is.  

I think this happened because my friends & I talked about the great AMDS fan films on YouTube in the months past and that altered my memory of the other titles.  

I stand corrected.

I'm interested to know, though, which version of the title people prefer now that both of them are out there.  Somehow, Terminator versus Robocop rolls off the tongue a bit easier.  Sounds better.  Even if I say "Terminator" first, I still root for Robocop.  Same for the Alien Vs. Predator movies.  I root for the Preds.   

Best wishes,
sidemachine


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Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:49 am


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has to be live action! 2d animation is still seen as children's entertainment (and I don't think it'd carry the detail necessary for either of these worlds) 

I think the country of Japan would like to present Anime as a substantial argument to that statement...plus consider this: If a live action version was done, chances are the budget would not be high enough to provide the level of action and detail the comics (and games) had. Instead we'd see bad actors in a movie full of unnecessary character development and a good bit of fooling with the history of both properties. An animated version, however, could bring massive amounts of action, fleets of terminators and plenty of ED-209s. We'd be lucky to see 5 terminators and 1 ED-209 in a live action version. A cartoon version wouldn't have to have the simple and "childish" style of previous Robo cartoons, but could have a darker comic-based style. Then of course their the chance of bringing Weller back, because he would only have speak some lines as opposed to being stuck in a suit. The backstory wouldn't take up a third of the movie because it would be created more with fans in mind. It could be more faithful to the established backgrounds. i think this would please everyone. A direct to DVD release wouldn't cause the studio tons, fans would be happy with the story and action, and the general public might give it a go because of the action and originality it would bring to a stale market.

Just my opinion, though...


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Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:11 am



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Oh yeah, I know that animation is a wonderful medium that can carry a lot of detail both visually and thematically, but I simply don't trust American animation to handle it with maturity. I've got Cowboy Bebop and The Animatrix on my shelf right next to Metalocalypse and South Park. I love animation, but I don't think an American production would really deliver what we want.

A co-financed American/Japanese project, however, could possibly work, similar to Afro Samurai or even (as an extreme example for examples' sake) PowerPuff Girls Z.

I'd love to see Weller come in to do Robo's voice, though. That'd be wicked. :D


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If it was drawn like it was originally and they got Weller in to do the voice it could work...


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I don't think budget is an excuse for not using live action. Look at the new Transformers. $150 million, and look at those machines! The effects shots would have to be CGI, though. Effects such as ED-209, and the Terminators. The third terminator movie had a bigger budget than Transformers, and it managed to do pretty well with its special effects. They weren't too bad, but good for its time. I'm sure Johnathan Mostow burned right through a majority of the budget on the future war sequences at the beginning of the movie.

FYI, Terminator 3 sucked because it wasn't kept in the same style as T1 or T2. By that, I mean T1 and 2 took place AT NIGHT!!! T3 took place in the daytime because it was cheaper to shoot in day than night. Not the way to do things. I know James Cameron would fork over his own money to fund the movie to do things the way he wanted if the studio opposed. (as was done for Aliens and some elements of T2)

The point of this babble is to show that it's not the effects, but how well you handle the budget. Michael Bay made a deal with the studio that allowed him to keep shooting Transformers in LA instead of Canada, in exchange for a lower pay rate.

Anything is possible with a given budget. You just have to manage it well.

As for a CGI movie, it would have to be done by the same studio that produced TMNT. Nothing else would be acceptable. I'm not too keen on the idea of anime, but I don't want to start any flame wars.


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I think the movie would kick ass, it would be hard to pick a winner though


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Archive

Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:42 am



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I think the movie would kick ass, it would be hard to pick a winner though

errr......maybe.... ROBOCOP?!?!?!? 

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just have the terminator touch down in ol detroit , and tryu to rob a gun store or something like that , when robo goes to the scene of the crime he runs into the terminator


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Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:28 pm



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If you want to see one, you'll have to do it yourself.

Actually, all one would need is a robosuit, a stop motion T800, a full size T800 torso, leg and arm+hand. And some good stop motion & adobe after effects skills...

If done right it'll look like a movie made in the 80's. Just like robo and terminator...


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Actually, all one would need is a robosuit, a stop motion T800, a full size T800 torso, leg and arm+hand. And some good stop motion & adobe after effects skills...



I'm sure we all have an abundance of these somewhere in our closets...along with good quality cameras, a working crew and many, many hours of freetime.

Seriously, that all sounds a lot easier then it would really be  :(


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Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:08 pm



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It actually is... Get a couple of motivated people, get access to warehouses and the like... and presto...

All it takes is willpower. The money, well, I am just assuming that the people wanting to do this already have a robosuit, and the other people have the 1:1 scale replica arm, and again others the scaled version of the T800. Almost everyone has a handycam nowadays, and some even an HD one. Hell, if you're lucky one guy in the group loves to film and even has some experience with after effects and the sort. Sure, if some elements are missing you'll have to buy that.

But like I said, it takes a lot of people desperately WANTING something like this to happen. If you kinda want it the project is doomed from the start. People will walk out, and that leaves a very bad taste in yer mouth (and possibly wallet).


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man id LOVE to see a RoboCop Vs The Terminator, it have the 2 directors, Verhoven if i spelled it right, and Cameron, Verhoven does the Robocop part of the film, and Cameron does the other way. and they combine there scenes together, and BOOM, we have a 4 star , and a kick ass rated R movie.


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It actually is... Get a couple of motivated people, get access to warehouses and the like... and presto...

All it takes is willpower. The money, well, I am just assuming that the people wanting to do this already have a robosuit, and the other people have the 1:1 scale replica arm, and again others the scaled version of the T800. Almost everyone has a handycam nowadays, and some even an HD one. Hell, if you're lucky one guy in the group loves to film and even has some experience with after effects and the sort. Sure, if some elements are missing you'll have to buy that.

But like I said, it takes a lot of people desperately WANTING something like this to happen. If you kinda want it the project is doomed from the start. People will walk out, and that leaves a very bad taste in yer mouth (and possibly wallet).

If it is as easy as you guys make it out to be, and there are loads of people who would want to see the movie, then I wonder why it hasn't been done before?


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I think the movie would kick ass, it would be hard to pick a winner though

That was a little dumb, no?

Do you wanted to be a slave to the machines???  :roll: 
I wouldnīt.

Of course RoboCop would be the only winner  :mrgreen:


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Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:10 pm



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Making a film isn't nearly as easy as it's being made out to be, not if you want a single scrap of quality to shine through in the final product. Even with a script, a full cast, costumes, props and a roster of practical effects, every day of filming would be an enormous group effort.

A single bullet hole in a wall requires a hole to be drilled, a small explosive placed in the cavity, the squib wired, the hole filled and painted over, and this needs to be done for every take.

For example: the core crew arrives on location and preps for filming by dressing the set and laying down any equipment necessary for filming, everything from camera tracks and lighting. The photographer sets up the lighting while any effects are worked on as well. The actors show up and re-rehearse the scene on the set before suiting up and lighting is finalized. 

The camera still hasn't rolled!

You need multiple takes and camera angles, someone on set whose job is purely to watch for continuity errors (so props don't switch hands and the like) and people operating the equipment, whether the camera or a boom mic or reflectors or off-camera effects. And everything in this scene needs to be storyboarded beforehand!

Post-pro requires dialog looping, digital grading of footage to match lighting levels and color pallets, not to mention editing the scenes themselves. You add in visual effects and everything gets even worse.

Let's say you want a Term to receive a shotgun blast to the head, revealing the endoskeleton skull, but don't want to do it with a break-away puppet. Photo-reference and measurements are taken of the actor's head, along with the environment he's present in. Control surfaces are used to capture the lighting for duplication in post before the scene is acted out. The shot is filmed with tracking markers painted on the actor's face. A full model of the actor's head is created in your preferred CG prog along with an endoskeleton skull properly scaled and proportioned to your actor. The CGI head is tracked over the existing footage using the markers for reference, then lit using the control surface reference. The skull is lit as well and the chrome surface is replicated using the photo-reference of the set taken earlier, and the footage is stitched together and cleaned up.

This isn't even taking into account the tearing of the skin nor the shotgun blast.

Movies are intensive people. Primer cost $5000. Have any of you seen Primer? They did wonderful things with their budget, but there's nothing fantastical or effects-driven about the thing at all. I think there are two effects shots in the movie. $5000 for a movie with no action sequences or crazy environments... most of the film takes place in places like hotel rooms and garages, the filmmaker's parents catered for the cast and crew, etc..

Sorry, it's just... a 30-second television commercial can cost millions of dollars. There's no way you can film a competent Robo VS Term flick with a camera, some costumes and a couple of buddies.


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Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:00 pm



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Sorry, it's just... a 30-second television commercial can cost millions of dollars. There's no way you can film a competent Robo VS Term flick with a camera, some costumes and a couple of buddies.

But the robocop vs terminator we are talking about here, is if there would be good to have a robocop vs terminator major movie, not a fanmade clip  :)


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Having found and read this article at MGM has a 30-day right of first refusal to finance and distribute the fifth "Terminator" film, a right earned through the settlement of a lawsuit between the studio and Halcyon partners Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson. According to sources, MGM has every intention of making a serious play for the franchise, potentially trumping Warner Bros., which is distributing "Terminator Salvation" in domestic territories, and Sony, which is releasing the film overseas.

So before the question was what if WB took on Robocop?
Now is what if MGM took on Terminator?


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Thu May 14, 2009 12:26 pm



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Halcyon is obligated to give MGM first crack at the fifth film. While some may question whether MGM can afford another big-ticket obligation, "Terminator" would be a strong fit alongside other franchise properties that include two Guillermo del Toro-helmed installments of "The Hobbit," a Darren Aronofsky-directed revamp of "Robocop," the next James Bond installment and "The Matarese Circle," an adaptation of the Robert Ludlum thriller that has David Cronenberg directing and Denzel Washington and Tom Cruise attached to star.

Interesting news for sure.

Personally I'm VERY skeptic about a RvsT. I'm just afraid that it would turn into a Alien VS Predator travesty where they wreck two great characters with one movie.


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Edd 209

Thu May 14, 2009 12:48 pm



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That's true Archive,

Also I don't want Robo to return to the big screen in the light of Termy's new success.
I want Robo to return to the big screen in it's own movie with it's own ideas.


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TJ LAZER

Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:20 pm



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on paper its an excellent idea - but Hollywood has a proven track record of fucking things up royally in this department - alien vs predator 1 = just about passable , alien vs predator 2 = shite - freddy vs jason = boring erm...... cant think of any others maybe it could work as long as a director who had at least seen and enjoyed a robocop and terminator film was given the chance - alas this would not happen - someone who doesn't give a crap always gets the job -- who cares if it works or not ----> the fans not the studios


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Philip17

Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:10 pm



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who cares if it works or not ----> the fans not the studios

Iīll buy that for a dolar!!!

It is true that the studios donīt care if the fans like it or not.... somehow... they just donīt care anymore  :|


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Archive

Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:56 pm



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Personally i think the train kinda left the station for this kind of film. It was a cool idea back when Weller and Arnold could still reprise their roles but nowadays it just wouldn't be the same. I can accept someone else as RoboCop but THE Terminator will always be Arnold.

A full on CGI movie would work, but not necessarily what we really want.


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artuditu

Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:43 pm



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Terminator and Robocop recent films had a disappointing box-office run. The idea of a mash up is now even more dead than before. For Robo we have the complex issue of how he should look from now on. Arnold is done with Terminator, Genysis was a good concept but didn't work at all as a movie.

An animated film like "The Dark Knight Returns" adapting Frank Miller's RvsT comic would be the best option in my opinion, I cannot see a live film working anymore (if it ever was a good idea, which I doubt now). Actually, animated Robo films following some of the old comics (marvel, dark horse, etc.) would be a nice addition to the franchise.


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Sin_Valor

Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:20 am



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Only a video game adaptation of RoboCop Vs The Terminator would work.

If you look at Alien Vs Predator, the idea sounds good if you adapted it as a video game, which is why there have been several games based on it, some were good and others weren't. When it turned into a feature-length movie a few years ago, it didn't turn out so well, it just ended up having a silly plot.

Now the idea of RvT sounds a bit silly, but if you put it in the right environment, like in a comic book or a video game, it works better that way. No one's going to watch it as a movie because the budget would be too expensive and the audience would be turned off by how goofy the plot is.

But that's just how I feel on the subject.


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Edd 209

Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:02 pm



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Personally i think the train kinda left the station for this kind of film. It was a cool idea back when Weller and Arnold could still reprise their roles but nowadays it just wouldn't be the same.

I agree with Archive that it would have been best back in the day with Weller and Arnie in their prime and in the moment of the films original success with real gritty bloody action as that is what people would be willing to pay to watch and what film makers are struggling to do with remakes, in my opinion.

I think AvP didn't have a storyline of substance to get immerssed in, whilst I do really like Frank Millers R vT as that does further develop Robo's character and I believe would make great movie viewing.

If we don't ever get an RvT I can live with that.  I've always secretly wanted Robo to have his own success without joining in with Terminator haha!


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Archive

Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:03 pm



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Also the failure of both new RoboCop and Terminator movies unfortunately show that the interest isn't really what it was for these kind of "robot" movies. 

At the moment people just want hunger game and super hero type movies.


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Sin_Valor

Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:15 am



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They tried to make Robo look like a superhero in the remake, but it didn't work.

