What DIDN'T you like about Robocop 1?

[artuditu]

Murphy's POV was a great artistic device, it gives you the complete frankenstein feeling that his mind is blank yet seeing everything, that he is just a dead body with no will and they are doing what they want with him. But when he is presented, he (the camera) starts to move, we see him for a second in that monitor, that's powerful, he's alive again and very intimidating. Then all the expectation at the police department to see him through the blurred glass, then his back... And later they present his gun and firepower with just sound and a distant shot of a hand and the auto-9 shooting. All that crescendo is incredibly well written/directed, you didn't need to see testing him and his weapon in a lab, also remember it's a fast paced film always moving forward, very dynamic, spending 20+ minutes in a lab testing things would have broken the flow.

You know when Apple show their new iphones/ipads they show finished products to the audience, that's creating expectation and catching attention, you don't know how it looks until then, it wouldn't be the same if they showed to the press all the protoypes and engineering behind before its release.

Obviously today trends and CGI in sci-fi/fantasy films demand more explicit and shocking visuals, so it was foreseeable they will show Murphy metamorphosis more as a scaring zombie full of wires and mechanics, and all the development and 'brainstorm' meetings (I would take it more as a parody of how hollywood studios work when creating a film or tv series, although there was already that kind of pardoy in R2 with Dr. Faxxx, remember?).

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Murphy's POV was a great artistic device, it gives you the complete frankenstein feeling that his mind is blank yet seeing everything, that he is just a dead body with no will and they are doing what they want with him. But when he is presented, he (the camera) starts to move, we see him for a second in that monitor, that's powerful, he's alive again and very intimidating. Then all the expectation at the police department to see him through the blurred glass, then his back... And later they present his gun and firepower with just sound and a distant shot of a hand and the auto-9 shooting. All that crescendo is incredibly well written/directed, you didn't need to see testing him and his weapon in a lab, also remember it's a fast paced film always moving forward, very dynamic, spending 20+ minutes in a lab testing things would have broken the flow.

You know when Apple show their new iphones/ipads they show finished products to the audience, that's creating expectation and catching attention, you don't know how it looks until then, it wouldn't be the same if they showed to the press all the protoypes and engineering behind before its release.

Obviously today trends and CGI in sci-fi/fantasy films demand more explicit and shocking visuals, so it was foreseeable they will show Murphy metamorphosis more as a scaring zombie full of wires and mechanics, and all the development and 'brainstorm' meetings (I would take it more as a parody of how hollywood studios work when creating a film or tv series, although there was already that kind of pardoy in R2 with Dr. Faxxx, remember?).

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Murphy's POV was a great artistic device, it gives you the complete frankenstein feeling that his mind is blank yet seeing everything, that he is just a dead body with no will and they are doing what they want with him. But when he is presented, he (the camera) starts to move, we see him for a second in that monitor, that's powerful, he's alive again and very intimidating. Then all the expectation at the police department to see him through the blurred glass, then his back... And later they present his gun and firepower with just sound and a distant shot of a hand and the auto-9 shooting. All that crescendo is incredibly well written/directed, you didn't need to see testing him and his weapon in a lab, also remember it's a fast paced film always moving forward, very dynamic, spending 20+ minutes in a lab testing things would have broken the flow.

You know when Apple show their new iphones/ipads they show finished products to the audience, that's creating expectation and catching attention, you don't know how it looks until then, it wouldn't be the same if they showed to the press all the protoypes and engineering behind before its release.

Obviously today trends and CGI in sci-fi/fantasy films demand more explicit and shocking visuals, so it was foreseeable they will show Murphy metamorphosis more as a scaring zombie full of wires and mechanics, and all the development and 'brainstorm' meetings (I would take it more as a parody of how hollywood studios work when creating a film or tv series, although there was already that kind of pardoy in R2 with Dr. Faxxx, remember?).

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Murphy's POV was a great artistic device, it gives you the complete frankenstein feeling that his mind is blank yet seeing everything, that he is just a dead body with no will and they are doing what they want with him. But when he is presented, he (the camera) starts to move, we see him for a second in that monitor, that's powerful, he's alive again and very intimidating. Then all the expectation at the police department to see him through the blurred glass, then his back... And later they present his gun and firepower with just sound and a distant shot of a hand and the auto-9 shooting. All that crescendo is incredibly well written/directed, you didn't need to see testing him and his weapon in a lab, also remember it's a fast paced film always moving forward, very dynamic, spending 20+ minutes in a lab testing things would have broken the flow.

You know when Apple show their new iphones/ipads they show finished products to the audience, that's creating expectation and catching attention, you don't know how it looks until then, it wouldn't be the same if they showed to the press all the protoypes and engineering behind before its release.

Obviously today trends and CGI in sci-fi/fantasy films demand more explicit and shocking visuals, so it was foreseeable they will show Murphy metamorphosis more as a scaring zombie full of wires and mechanics, and all the development and 'brainstorm' meetings (I would take it more as a parody of how hollywood studios work when creating a film or tv series, although there was already that kind of pardoy in R2 with Dr. Faxxx, remember?).

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[Rick]

I can't think of many things I didn't like about it. But if I had to pick something off the top of my head it would be the Dick Jones animatronic figure they used for him falling out the window. Arms were too long and it looked really cheesy and fake. If they re-did that scene with a better model or something it would only improve the film a bit more.
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I can't think of many things I didn't like about it. But if I had to pick something off the top of my head it would be the Dick Jones animatronic figure they used for him falling out the window. Arms were too long and it looked really cheesy and fake. If they re-did that scene with a better model or something it would only improve the film a bit more.
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I can't think of many things I didn't like about it. But if I had to pick something off the top of my head it would be the Dick Jones animatronic figure they used for him falling out the window. Arms were too long and it looked really cheesy and fake. If they re-did that scene with a better model or something it would only improve the film a bit more.
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I can't think of many things I didn't like about it. But if I had to pick something off the top of my head it would be the Dick Jones animatronic figure they used for him falling out the window. Arms were too long and it looked really cheesy and fake. If they re-did that scene with a better model or something it would only improve the film a bit more.
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[IlyaG]

This entire discussion reads like the asinine board room meeting in RoboCop 2 where all those people were asked to give feedback on how to change RoboCop... and then they actually put those changes in.

Reading through all this reinforces my opinion that movies should not be made by committee.

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This entire discussion reads like the asinine board room meeting in RoboCop 2 where all those people were asked to give feedback on how to change RoboCop... and then they actually put those changes in.

Reading through all this reinforces my opinion that movies should not be made by committee.

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This entire discussion reads like the asinine board room meeting in RoboCop 2 where all those people were asked to give feedback on how to change RoboCop... and then they actually put those changes in.

Reading through all this reinforces my opinion that movies should not be made by committee.

[TwiggyChest]

I would have liked if they had managed to put the hospital scene with Lewis in there somewhere, just not at the end. It was the perfect follow-up to Dick Jones' "Ask any cop, he'll tell you".

I also would have preferred ED-209 doing a bit more in his final confrontation. Perhaps being sent along with the others to the Steel Mill, RoboCop then has to evade him until he can retrieve Joe or Emil's cannon. The way ED-209 just blew up without any prior second showdown with RoboCop is anti-climatic.

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I would have liked if they had managed to put the hospital scene with Lewis in there somewhere, just not at the end. It was the perfect follow-up to Dick Jones' "Ask any cop, he'll tell you".

I also would have preferred ED-209 doing a bit more in his final confrontation. Perhaps being sent along with the others to the Steel Mill, RoboCop then has to evade him until he can retrieve Joe or Emil's cannon. The way ED-209 just blew up without any prior second showdown with RoboCop is anti-climatic.

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I would have liked if they had managed to put the hospital scene with Lewis in there somewhere, just not at the end. It was the perfect follow-up to Dick Jones' "Ask any cop, he'll tell you".

I also would have preferred ED-209 doing a bit more in his final confrontation. Perhaps being sent along with the others to the Steel Mill, RoboCop then has to evade him until he can retrieve Joe or Emil's cannon. The way ED-209 just blew up without any prior second showdown with RoboCop is anti-climatic.

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[Victorboris1]

Well, the only thing I don't like about the original Robocop is the fact that it was filmed during the 80s, and the entire western world dressed like clowns during the 80s. That's pretty much it.

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Well, the only thing I don't like about the original Robocop is the fact that it was filmed during the 80s, and the entire western world dressed like clowns during the 80s. That's pretty much it.

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Well, the only thing I don't like about the original Robocop is the fact that it was filmed during the 80s, and the entire western world dressed like clowns during the 80s. That's pretty much it.

[RoboLewis]

Everything about the first movie was perfect! I just didn’t get how at the beginning of the movie we see Lewis beat up her suspect and Reed assigns Murphy as her new partner. So, until Murphy shows up she’s working these mean streets alone? And I would’ve like to have seen a bit more of Murphy adjusting to Metro West and how bad the crime was in that area. When Sgt. Reed says to Murphy that Metro South is a nice precinct and Murphy says “Pretty Good,” the look and reply from Reed says it all. He came from an area that wasn’t too bad and he had a cushy job. Now he had to really work for living!

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Everything about the first movie was perfect! I just didn’t get how at the beginning of the movie we see Lewis beat up her suspect and Reed assigns Murphy as her new partner. So, until Murphy shows up she’s working these mean streets alone? And I would’ve like to have seen a bit more of Murphy adjusting to Metro West and how bad the crime was in that area. When Sgt. Reed says to Murphy that Metro South is a nice precinct and Murphy says “Pretty Good,” the look and reply from Reed says it all. He came from an area that wasn’t too bad and he had a cushy job. Now he had to really work for living!

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Everything about the first movie was perfect! I just didn’t get how at the beginning of the movie we see Lewis beat up her suspect and Reed assigns Murphy as her new partner. So, until Murphy shows up she’s working these mean streets alone? And I would’ve like to have seen a bit more of Murphy adjusting to Metro West and how bad the crime was in that area. When Sgt. Reed says to Murphy that Metro South is a nice precinct and Murphy says “Pretty Good,” the look and reply from Reed says it all. He came from an area that wasn’t too bad and he had a cushy job. Now he had to really work for living!

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[RoboPimp]

Since this topic has been brought back up, I have a new one to add to the list. This is something that has kinda always bothered me, but has become much more irksome to me in recent years. And what is this thing I don't like about the original RoboCop movie? It's reputation.

This might seem odd for a RoboCop fan, as the movie is held in a very high regard, not just by fans but by cinema culture. It was the 23rd movie added to the Criterion Collection, which is quite prestigious considering that series now has well over a 1000 releases. Many people say RoboCop is a perfect movie. And I don't disagree. But the problem? It is perhaps TOO perfect.

Some people think RoboCop is a film, and never needed to be a franchise. They see it is a complete story that should have ended when the credits roll. I completely disagree. I have been a fan of RoboCop as long as I can remember. I did see the first movie when I was very young, but my childhood love of RoboCop comes more from the third movie, the action figures I had and the comics I read. I loved RoboCop and didn't see any one version as the "real" version of RoboCop. And I still feel that way.

Some people love the first movie and hate everything else. They love to claim RoboCop 2 is shit, utter trash, a worthless sequel. To me the gap in quality between the first two movies is fairly narrow. Of course I think the original is perfect too. But the difference to me comes down to the super tight pacing and character work of the original movie. No scene is filler, no character wastes time. And the same can't be said for RoboCop 2. But, in terms of action, emotion, impact, I think RoboCop 2 is even better in some regards. Not to mention RoboCop 3...

I won't go on about every specific spinoff, but I certainly could. They are all valid to me. So when people act like the first movie is so perfect that nothing could come close, it irks me. There have been more great RoboCop stories, many if you could episodes and comics and not just movies. Unfortunately I think the reboot was the real turning point for this. Since it was such a mediocre flop many people don't think there is much point in trying something new with RoboCop again.

Some people say RoboCop is not a superhero, and does not need a franchise with endless entries. To me RoboCop IS a superhero, I loved him more than Batman and Spider-Man and wanted to see RoboCop in as many cartoons, movies, comics, action figures, etc as those guys had... and I still do! The dream is undying, and my rant is coming to an end.

TL,DR: RoboCop is a perfect movie? Sure, but it ain't THAT perfect.

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Since this topic has been brought back up, I have a new one to add to the list. This is something that has kinda always bothered me, but has become much more irksome to me in recent years. And what is this thing I don't like about the original RoboCop movie? It's reputation.

This might seem odd for a RoboCop fan, as the movie is held in a very high regard, not just by fans but by cinema culture. It was the 23rd movie added to the Criterion Collection, which is quite prestigious considering that series now has well over a 1000 releases. Many people say RoboCop is a perfect movie. And I don't disagree. But the problem? It is perhaps TOO perfect.

Some people think RoboCop is a film, and never needed to be a franchise. They see it is a complete story that should have ended when the credits roll. I completely disagree. I have been a fan of RoboCop as long as I can remember. I did see the first movie when I was very young, but my childhood love of RoboCop comes more from the third movie, the action figures I had and the comics I read. I loved RoboCop and didn't see any one version as the "real" version of RoboCop. And I still feel that way.

Some people love the first movie and hate everything else. They love to claim RoboCop 2 is shit, utter trash, a worthless sequel. To me the gap in quality between the first two movies is fairly narrow. Of course I think the original is perfect too. But the difference to me comes down to the super tight pacing and character work of the original movie. No scene is filler, no character wastes time. And the same can't be said for RoboCop 2. But, in terms of action, emotion, impact, I think RoboCop 2 is even better in some regards. Not to mention RoboCop 3...

I won't go on about every specific spinoff, but I certainly could. They are all valid to me. So when people act like the first movie is so perfect that nothing could come close, it irks me. There have been more great RoboCop stories, many if you could episodes and comics and not just movies. Unfortunately I think the reboot was the real turning point for this. Since it was such a mediocre flop many people don't think there is much point in trying something new with RoboCop again.

Some people say RoboCop is not a superhero, and does not need a franchise with endless entries. To me RoboCop IS a superhero, I loved him more than Batman and Spider-Man and wanted to see RoboCop in as many cartoons, movies, comics, action figures, etc as those guys had... and I still do! The dream is undying, and my rant is coming to an end.

TL,DR: RoboCop is a perfect movie? Sure, but it ain't THAT perfect.

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Since this topic has been brought back up, I have a new one to add to the list. This is something that has kinda always bothered me, but has become much more irksome to me in recent years. And what is this thing I don't like about the original RoboCop movie? It's reputation.

This might seem odd for a RoboCop fan, as the movie is held in a very high regard, not just by fans but by cinema culture. It was the 23rd movie added to the Criterion Collection, which is quite prestigious considering that series now has well over a 1000 releases. Many people say RoboCop is a perfect movie. And I don't disagree. But the problem? It is perhaps TOO perfect.

Some people think RoboCop is a film, and never needed to be a franchise. They see it is a complete story that should have ended when the credits roll. I completely disagree. I have been a fan of RoboCop as long as I can remember. I did see the first movie when I was very young, but my childhood love of RoboCop comes more from the third movie, the action figures I had and the comics I read. I loved RoboCop and didn't see any one version as the "real" version of RoboCop. And I still feel that way.

Some people love the first movie and hate everything else. They love to claim RoboCop 2 is shit, utter trash, a worthless sequel. To me the gap in quality between the first two movies is fairly narrow. Of course I think the original is perfect too. But the difference to me comes down to the super tight pacing and character work of the original movie. No scene is filler, no character wastes time. And the same can't be said for RoboCop 2. But, in terms of action, emotion, impact, I think RoboCop 2 is even better in some regards. Not to mention RoboCop 3...

I won't go on about every specific spinoff, but I certainly could. They are all valid to me. So when people act like the first movie is so perfect that nothing could come close, it irks me. There have been more great RoboCop stories, many if you could episodes and comics and not just movies. Unfortunately I think the reboot was the real turning point for this. Since it was such a mediocre flop many people don't think there is much point in trying something new with RoboCop again.

Some people say RoboCop is not a superhero, and does not need a franchise with endless entries. To me RoboCop IS a superhero, I loved him more than Batman and Spider-Man and wanted to see RoboCop in as many cartoons, movies, comics, action figures, etc as those guys had... and I still do! The dream is undying, and my rant is coming to an end.

TL,DR: RoboCop is a perfect movie? Sure, but it ain't THAT perfect.

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Since this topic has been brought back up, I have a new one to add to the list. This is something that has kinda always bothered me, but has become much more irksome to me in recent years. And what is this thing I don't like about the original RoboCop movie? It's reputation.

This might seem odd for a RoboCop fan, as the movie is held in a very high regard, not just by fans but by cinema culture. It was the 23rd movie added to the Criterion Collection, which is quite prestigious considering that series now has well over a 1000 releases. Many people say RoboCop is a perfect movie. And I don't disagree. But the problem? It is perhaps TOO perfect.

Some people think RoboCop is a film, and never needed to be a franchise. They see it is a complete story that should have ended when the credits roll. I completely disagree. I have been a fan of RoboCop as long as I can remember. I did see the first movie when I was very young, but my childhood love of RoboCop comes more from the third movie, the action figures I had and the comics I read. I loved RoboCop and didn't see any one version as the "real" version of RoboCop. And I still feel that way.

Some people love the first movie and hate everything else. They love to claim RoboCop 2 is shit, utter trash, a worthless sequel. To me the gap in quality between the first two movies is fairly narrow. Of course I think the original is perfect too. But the difference to me comes down to the super tight pacing and character work of the original movie. No scene is filler, no character wastes time. And the same can't be said for RoboCop 2. But, in terms of action, emotion, impact, I think RoboCop 2 is even better in some regards. Not to mention RoboCop 3...

I won't go on about every specific spinoff, but I certainly could. They are all valid to me. So when people act like the first movie is so perfect that nothing could come close, it irks me. There have been more great RoboCop stories, many if you could episodes and comics and not just movies. Unfortunately I think the reboot was the real turning point for this. Since it was such a mediocre flop many people don't think there is much point in trying something new with RoboCop again.

Some people say RoboCop is not a superhero, and does not need a franchise with endless entries. To me RoboCop IS a superhero, I loved him more than Batman and Spider-Man and wanted to see RoboCop in as many cartoons, movies, comics, action figures, etc as those guys had... and I still do! The dream is undying, and my rant is coming to an end.

TL,DR: RoboCop is a perfect movie? Sure, but it ain't THAT perfect.

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