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Stan The Man
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| LuanaTF : | | Anyway guys, I still think Boddicker and RoboCain are the best villains in anything Robo I've watched. |
Thank you Luana, in more ways than one. 
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LuanaTF
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:07 pm |
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You're welcome, Stan.
No matter the great childhood memories linked to R3 and the series, the clichés and these plain characters really ruined them. It's a pity, because kid/family-friendly shouldn't equal poor plot & character development.
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RegalSin
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IDK, somewhere in the tv series ( including the two animations ), thier has to be an enemy, otherwise Robo has yet faced.
What you want me to say, an athletic priss machine, with a twin light saber from PD??? The "Black" Robocop from PD????
The "Dirty Harry" rip-off from the animation Hedgecock? Yeah Hedgecock, being the competitive officer???
I am going to say Hedgecock, he is happy for his job at OCP, is an ex-solder, and is proud to work against Robocop. An enemy who you see at work everyday, gunning for your head.
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The problem is that you want a direct combat situation, were Robocop is in super danger, not an enemy who is calculating to get rid of Robocop.
I would just say the kid from Robocop 2, as harmless as that sounds,
I am not going to point out OCP, civilians, women, and children, but they count as a distraction for him.
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Clearance, is just a super criminal, and died during Robocop 1, and came back for the comics. We all knew that he was going to get taken down, and even killed. Even if he survived, iike in the Comics, he just comes back like the Joker.
Cain is just another ED-209. He looks silly, but for a kid ( or most of us back then ), he was amazing, and scary looking. Cain on drugs with a bunch of new moves. Another big thing for him to fight.
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I am just trying to be realistic, when I say OTOMO, or Terminator. Terminator could probably tear him limb from limb, an go for the meat inside. Otomo, even the original ( because we are talking about the same character ), was over whelmed by his sword play. Two Otomo's are just messed up. You said the worst.
Clearance had to lure Robocop into an abandon place, with a bunch of machinery tools. Cain even did the same exact thing.
Cain and Clearance are cowards, when it came to dealing with Robo. They are super bad all over the place, but they are also human. The movie made us knew this, and so did the characters. Clearance was like "He wants to kill me" and "Look my face Dick". That is fear, and while they are insane, him and his gang are also messy.
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| RegalSin : |
Cain is just another ED-209. He looks silly, but for a kid ( or most of us back then ), he was amazing, and scary looking. Cain on drugs with a bunch of new moves. Another big thing for him to fight.
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What???? O cmon man, he was the best designed movie robot ever, and a metaphor as well, for American bodybuilder. And a very original and unique idea, a robot with a brain of psychopathic druglord addicted to drugs. A robot addicted to drugs! And he was completely different than ED, ED was a comic relief and a dumb (intllectually ) robot, Cain was a vengeance looking arsenal packed robot with a brain of a murderous and cruel psychopath
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Stan The Man
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:26 am |
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| KidGoesWild : | | RegalSin : |
Cain is just another ED-209. He looks silly, but for a kid ( or most of us back then ), he was amazing, and scary looking. Cain on drugs with a bunch of new moves. Another big thing for him to fight.
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What???? O cmon man, he was the best designed movie robot ever, and a metaphor as well, for American bodybuilder. And a very original and unique idea, a robot with a brain of psychopathic druglord addicted to drugs. A robot addicted to drugs! And he was completely different than ED, ED was a comic relief and a dumb (intllectually ) robot, Cain was a vengeance looking arsenal packed robot with a brain of a murderous and cruel psychopath |
Forget it, KGW, reasoning with this fella will only hurt you head, and probably your soul.
Sadly this is actually the best post he's made here yet, and that isn't saying much. That said, he's still full of shit with both Otomo and especially Terminator, and in the case of Terminator, clearly didn't listen to me about choosing someone in the RoboCop franchise. RoboCop versus Terminator is another topic entirely. Anyway, the Terminator beats RoboCop? Right. :roll:
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Sin_Valor
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:29 am |
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Stan's right. KGW just don't bother with that guy, it'll only keep him going and make it even worse...just be patient for the day that he gets banned and everyone will be happy again.
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Stan The Man
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| LuanaTF : | Not sure of what RegalSin was trying to say, but I think he misunderstood the topic title entirely.
RegalSin, are you trying to tackle the 'enemy' topic in a philosophical or metaphorical way? If that's what you're trying to say, I'm afraid you won't be understood if you post it in the wrong topic. |
I think Luana said it really, he's considering the topic in an abstract and loose manner. Not really a bad thing, but as said, just not really the point here. Our question is a bit more direct, literal, and pointed than he seems to understand or care for.
We just want to know who one thinks RoboCop's best adversary/enemy character is and why. Most of what he stated isn't that, but a bunch of extraneous crap and the rest, where he did point out specific characters, he didn't give any good or even real reasoning for those choices.
And so here we are, nothing good, yet nothing exactly bad either, just a headache. Bah.
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Sin_Valor
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:47 am |
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Is he ever going to understand the question properly?
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Stan The Man
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Well he did in his last post, at least in that he did make a couple of straight choices. Not that they were really good ones to me, but still.
Anyway, I disagree with Otomo, don't really see how he can be considered the 'best enemy'. Unless it's supposed to be because he's a danger to a limp-dick, weak-kneed RoboCop, in which case, well.. Disagree. Discounting the not-the-same RoboCop in the third movie, Otomo's just some android with a sword, not that impressive compared to ED or RoboCAIN. And despite the circumstances, Robo still survived his encounters with Otomo as well so.. I don't think he has much of a menacing quality to him, and therefore don't think he even rates as the 'best enemy' in that regard.
Hob might rate somewhat, but I can't consider him the 'best enemy' either, a little too secondary to me, never saw him as that much a real enemy to RoboCop in the first place.
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Otomo was stupid, he didn't pose as much of a threat as ED-209, Cain or Boddicker...not even McDagget!
He sucked, end of story.
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LuanaTF
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Otomo was just really a puppet, not just as a machine but as everybody was in McDaggets' hands. Problem is that McDaggets was never a good character in the first place.
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RegalSin
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Otomo, was flying all over the place like crazy. Murphy could not even handle him, and to say oh well, he was disabled is an excuse. Even when he had the jump on Otomo, it was using the special high end weaponry, not his regular gun ( in fact what happend to that?? ), and that did not stop Otomo. Twin Otomo, also proved to have an "edge" over the robot cop., as well. However like a tootsie pop we will never know.
Also puppet? when do we ever see Otomo being controlled, by a pilot? We never ever see this, now do we??? So far he is the most best robot made, with understanding. I mean sure his silence could indicate, that OTOMO was being piloted, but otherwise, it out did murphy to the point of Terminator.
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What???? O cmon man, he was the best designed movie robot ever, and a metaphor as well, for American bodybuilder. And a very original and unique idea, a robot with a brain of psychopathic druglord addicted to drugs. A robot addicted to drugs! And he was completely different than ED, ED was a comic relief and a dumb (intllectually ) robot, Cain was a vengeance looking arsenal packed robot with a brain of a murderous and cruel psychopath
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Robocain was a bad idea, from OCP. The only thing that was justice was watching this feminist phyco nut getting her just deserts, and then being jailed afterwards, or we assume is her fault for choosing the brain. Once again women have been proven to be a pain for Muphy to deal with, especially an evil college trained woman, who know doubtfully screwed her way to her position.
ED-209 was a security bot, made to do one thing, blow anything that got in it's way. Cain was made to replace robocop, but he was an over the top, version of a commercialistic gang person, Like a body builder, who was also a drug person.
Cain was more or less a comical relief, in that sense, I will admit, when I was younger, I felt that Robo vs Cain Mach II, but now I see a patheric attempt to show how bad drugs are. Even Murphy ripping out his, brain ans smashing it, was also apart of that advertisment, as he walked around silly like only to crash down, in a comical fashion.
I get the idea but lets be realistic, the war against drugs is not real. RCPII is one big advertisment. Ever heard of the insane machine ( I forget the name ), The Infernal Machine/Ghost in the machine??? That is what Cain is. An over the top,
street-punk, walking around in his tiny work out shirt, and giant muscles.
Their is nothing wrong with Cain, asides he is part of the "Don't do Drugs" media rubbish. Back then during the Korean and Vietnam, and including Desert Storm, many people were exposed to drugs, so when they came out, they considered it normal. Drugs ( any ) is a means of control, because the substance does have benefits. The problem with drugs is that some people are too stupid to maintain self-control, as well as the zoology where various race groups have different reactions to drugs.
HE is just past the breaking point, to where he has to go beyond the extremes to get his point across. The reality with cops, during the post 1970's, they planted drugs on people, to get them arrested, especially non-European related people. Another problem with officers is that, they are suggestive, AKA ( make the suspect repeat what they say ), and commit to false statements. Cain is no more dangerous then Angela Davis. If RCopII was real, Cain would be a negro looking woman, trying to start a communist uprising, using narcotics. Her entire posse, would have nothing related to european, or commercialized Latin, Spanish people.
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One thing I cant stop myself from adding, is the dispute that R2 was an anti drug film. How? First fo all, its hard R, so there is a heavy drug use (just as in the first one btw, with the exception that in the first one it was coke, in the second its a scifi designer drug). There is nothing that would indicate that drugs are bad in the movie other than shakes from Duffy and Angie, and there are no consequences of drug use shown. Just the opposite, everyones actually shown as feeling really good and enjoying those, even the cool RoboCop II gets a high and all the hydraulics raise him by the end. As a kid, watching the movie I thought its some sort of power fluid, since I wasnt yet much familiar with the concept of drugs. R2 is as much an anti drug movie as the first, they even have same suggestive shots where Robo steps on the drug crushing it, it was coke in the first, Nuke ampule in the second. Again, Ive never seen it as an antidrug movie, except for Wellers PSA, just as an R rated adult scifi with a heavy drug use, as in the first one
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Stan The Man
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| RegalSin : | Otomo, was flying all over the place like crazy. Murphy could not even handle him, and to say oh well, he was disabled is an excuse. Even when he had the jump on Otomo, it was using the special high end weaponry, not his regular gun ( in fact what happend to that?? ), and that did not stop Otomo. Twin Otomo, also proved to have an "edge" over the robot cop., as well. However like a tootsie pop we will never know.
Also puppet? when do we ever see Otomo being controlled, by a pilot? We never ever see this, now do we??? So far he is the most best robot made, with understanding. I mean sure his silence could indicate, that OTOMO was being piloted, but otherwise, it out did murphy to the point of Terminator. |
Despite this loon being flushed, it must be noted he ignored what I as saying entirely, the main problem was that the RoboCop in R3 wasn't the same RoboCop in R1 and R2, he was deliberately weakened in terms of R3's story. That said, I will grant Otomo has an agility advantage in any event, but in every case, he was portrayed as getting the drop on Robo and having an undo advantage, I don't think that's an 'edge' worth mentioning. That said, he still isn't impressive or intimidating straight-on compared to ED or RC2, that can't be denied. And again, Terminator doesn't count because the only instances in where RoboCop went against T800s (in the RvsT comic), he generally won. Frankly I don't see how any real RoboCop fan could ever choose Terminator in any regard, let alone the T800 over Robo.
Given how he isn't here, guess it was also deemed by others he wasn't much for RoboCop either. I will not even begin to lend credibility of any kind to the remainder of his post by even acknowledging any of it - it's simply more mad ramblings that have dick to do with the topic at hand.
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