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KidGoesWild L-L3
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
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Comment: I type it, you think it
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:28 am |
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I also would give credit to McDaggett from robocop 3, to bad the movie was for kids, but we have to see that he killed a cop (Lewis) with no problem.
"I donīt have a huge problem with that!" bang bang bang
I think he is one of the few mature things around that movie. He also said "If we let him live, we would have to pay him!" and then the resistance mole dead
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I also gotta admit that Mcdagget is a good villain in a classic Robocop style. Cruel and cold with a real asshole ring to him. Thats the one and only thing they really got right. Oh, and I still think the actor John Castle looks so much like Steve Martin!
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nindo R-L5
Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Post Count: 47
Comment: Cops don't like me, so I don't like cops.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:31 pm |
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Quote: | Cain, a psychopath who believes in voodoo and is a heavy drug user who takes pleasure in torturing people (live operations...). He's an even more dangerous criminal than the ones from the first movie since he's completely insane and out of touch with reality. Not to mention his other side - one of the coolest machines in movie history, which is Robocop II. Tom Noonan always portrayed creepy and completely insane characters.
And we also have one of the most controversial movie villains ever - Hob, a small boy. The character created quite a storm. Here's the movie that kids may see, whether they're suppose to or not. And Hob's a kid who's in a gang, deals with drugs, have a personal prostitute Angie and kills people like he's playing a video game. Talking a about a hardcore movie that is still controversial after 20 years!
And those two are closely followed by the duo from the first movie - Kurtwood Smith does a phenomenal job in portraying Clarence Boddicker, a filthy and obnoxious thug. Verhoeven made a great casting choice. Boddicker was a guy that had absolutely no remorse and no regard for human life. Kill left and right and don't flinch kind of guy, with only money and personal pleasures being the only things that count for him.
And Dick Jones was truly a 'dick'. He symbolized corrupted and evil power in the suit. He is basically a white-collar version of Boddicker. Money, power and name is what counts. Ronny Cox is one of the best 80's bad guys possible. He was equally as good in Total Recall, just a great actor. |
Quote: | Im not sure if I place Cain and Hob above Boddicker and Jones, but I certainly think theyre much more dangerous and unpredictable. They had no morals, and they were delusional. They couldnt be reasoned with, they couldnt be bought by money, market territory or things like that
The slight advatage that Jones and Boddicker have tho, is that they were more 'real". Not to take anything away from the great characterization of the villains from the second movie, but the first movie's villains were really 3 dimensional and werent "colored" or embelished. You have plenty of people like that in everyday life (unfortunately). |
Very good analysis and very good arguments. Cain is indeed insane who lied to angie by saying that he would make only fear with duffy. He makes him massacre in a barbarian way. And hob and an example of a youth delivered to the law of the jungle, handled by cain and the ocp for political interests. Let us recall that the ocp encourages the delinquency to build delta city and to eject the mayor kuzak.
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TheDudenfresh ;
Joined: 12 Mar 2010
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:42 pm |
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Cain from RoboCop 2, during the movie, he just plays as a cold, weak man who I don't find so interesting.
But when he dies and turns into a killer cyborg, you knew he was gonna be BAD-ASS for the rest of the movie!
He will always be one of the coolest bots around...PERIOD!
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Deus Ex Robo 6655321
Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Comment: Is my new life a reward for the one I led?
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:23 pm |
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Hmm, negative 5 already? _________________ All of humanity is of my creation. They are all the ways I could have lived my life, but didn't. All the possibilities I missed. The reason for their existence is to give contrast to my ego.
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Stan The Man Bah Concepts Division
Joined: 05 Jun 2003
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Comment: I'm the guy in Old Archive.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:04 pm |
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-7 now.
Still, I find little if any fault with his choice for RoboCAIN - He's certainly the best 'machine' enemy Robo has faced yet. _________________ I don't wanna pay that, PhotoBucket. Now maybe you haven't heard, but I'm the guy in old Archive. So hows about you just shit snow for a year and I'll figure out something else. Sayonara!
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Snoopy O-L3
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:21 am |
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Well I think I have to go with Clarence st8 bad to the bone,st8 ruthless killa,st8 take no prisoners,ya know ya boy Kurtwood Smith rocked the spot(LOL not that many people on this site will know what I was talking about,none will catch my drift,but if anyone ever seen Tupac Resurrection than you might know lol)
....jokes aside I think Clarence may be my favorite...no regard to human life,a sick and twisted human being,he takes pleasure in torturing people.He had almost killed Murphy twice,twice!
Although I gotta go with Cain as being the baddest,Cain had no feelings whatsoever,hes a complete nutcase...........how is someone gonna care about any other when they don't even care about themself?
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Primrose Lane O-L1
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
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Comment: Can you do that, dad?
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:29 pm |
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For me, it's definitely Clarence. If I remember correctly, on one of the DVD extras, Kurtwood Smith talks about how if a bad guy is physically big and bad, the audience will feel somewhat secure in the knowledge that they could potentially outsmart or outrun him.
But when you have someone like Boddicker - intelligent, clinical, deliberate, methodical, cerebral - he is truly the scariest type of villain of them all.
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Duke Serkol O-L3
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 pm |
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Deus Ex Robo : | Yeah, no matter how much you pick apart Cain's character and how little he is realized in the the actual film, you just can't beat RoboCain.
One of the most fucked up bad ass killing machines ever.
Hell, Terminator was cool as balls, but RoboCain brought such a hollowed brutal destructive force of cinematic death. Do we care that he shot much more ammunition than he could actually hold in his arm? Shit no. He was just "hella awesome". (sorry about the hella ).
I don't know, maybe I'm crossing my fan-wires but RoboCain is undeniable in "it's" awesomeness. |
This post already said everything I could on the subject. My vote goes to RoboCain
...oh crap my 4th directive! *starts spazzing*
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CoboRop R-L3
Joined: 11 Feb 2011
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:06 pm |
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Has to be Clarence Boddicker, perhaps the best movie villain of all time. Evil beyond cruel, no remorse, no compassion guilty of everything from criminal damage to sadistic murder and rape to torture and yet, somehow, he's still cool..
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Cain O-L1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Comment: NUKE MOOORRREE NUKE! I sooooo love CAIN CYBORG
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:01 pm |
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I have to agree with TheDudenfresh Robocain is Kickass. Simply I love his firepower and those toes of his could kill with one kick to your chest BOOM
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CAIN MKII the killing machine
Joined: 09 Jan 2007
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Comment: Artificial intelligence beat real stupidity.
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:31 pm |
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I love Robocain but when it comes to my favourite Robocop villain, there is only one name: Clarence Boddicker!!!
He is the most...colourfull _________________
Bwaaaaaaaah!!! PEA SHOOTER!!!
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Robo79 O-L1*
Joined: 26 Sep 2008
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Comment: Murphy, transferring in from Metro South.
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:30 am |
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Boddicker was an unholy badassed creep with choice one-liners and a unique demeanour, too.
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WeKilledYou DIRECTIVE 249 Don't be oversensitive to the hostility and negativity of others
Joined: 15 Jun 2011
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Comment: I know you. You're dead!
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:14 pm |
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My list:
1.Dick Jones
2.Clarence Boddicker
3.Hob
4.Bob Morton
5.Emil Antonowsky
6.Cain
I love Clarence just as much as the next bad guy, but there was always something amazingly evil and sinister about Dick Jones. Plus Ronny Cox just did such a damn good job. Hob comes in third, cause not only was he a total B-A, but he was also smart and ruthless for his age. I couldn't leave out Bob Morton, just because he tried so damn hard, and without him there wouldn't be a Robocop.
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RoboMike1170 R-L2
Joined: 04 May 2012
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Comment: "Stay out of Trouble,"
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:47 pm |
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ed 209! bad ass!
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