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Comment: RoboCop: The Future's Silver Lining

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:56 pm Reply with quote

It's been mentioned on the DVDs that the logic of keeping Murphy's face was so that the subconscious part of the human brain operating the system (which would always instinctively know it was human) wouldn't go insane upon seeing a non-human face in the mirror. Plus, it makes Robo easier to relate to, not just as an audience member, but as a good 'ol citizen of Old Detroit.
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Well if they completely blanked out its memory how would it subconsciously remember it was even once human? He was product, a machine nothing more, least that was idea.



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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:10 am Reply with quote

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Well if they completely blanked out its memory how would it subconsciously remember it was even once human? He was product, a machine nothing more, least that was idea.


As Trap said, because it has a human brain, it would by instinct know it was human, if only on completely subconscious or even non-conscious level. Memory and instinct are not the same thing.

Besides, they only thought they blanked his memory. Nonetheless, I think blanking his memory was more to eliminate the 'Alex Murphy' part out of him - Destroying his identity, who he once was. I don't believe it could completely destroy the fact that he was still part human. Suppress it maybe, but not eliminate it entirely. I imagine they would have liked to do that, though - but hey, that's what you get when you put a human in a machine, ain't it? tongue

Now, as the 'official' answer says, if Robo-Murphy did remember he was human once and saw a non-human face (or even no face) and then had some psychological break that fucks up his delicate programming and destroys him, that would be bad. So the face, on a practical level, acts as an additional element to aid in keeping his psyche in-check. A fail-safe, if you will.

Trap also hit it on the head with the public-relation point as well. Good job.
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:17 am Reply with quote

This is why I wish there was chat. Because what I have to say is too much to type all at once here. Actually I don't even know that I could convey myself properly. But main thing is that if they had technology to use a human brain to run a humanoid robot and sustain the brain. God I can't even wrap my mind around it. Why wouldn't they just use a complete machine like a terminator? See here I go, gotta stop now. The whole brain to control this thing is just too outlandish. Can't stop........ OK stopping.



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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:05 am Reply with quote

That was the entire purpose of ED-209. It is not only to provide an obstacle for Robo to overcome later on, or an opportunity for Morton to swing in and get his project fast tracked.

It showed that a purely mechanical solution lacked even the slightest nuance necessary to do its job. ED didn't hear the gun drop, so he opened fire. ED clearly has visual sensors (or at the very least, a sonar-type system for object and motion detection) that should have picked up Kinney disarming himself, but that small inconsistency between its sensors resulted in ED shooting first and asking questions later.

A cyborg offered all of the physical, practical and psychological advantages of a mechanical officer, but with the judgment and gut instinct of a flesh and blood man, all kept in check with the Prime Directives to keep him from bending the rules too much.
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:08 pm Reply with quote

Yes, yes, yes I know that and your explanation is pretty much spot on. I'm just sayin....... They got a brain runnin a humanoid machine, but they're drivin around tauruses. Cracks me up.



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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:20 pm Reply with quote

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They got a brain runnin a humanoid machine, but they're drivin around tauruses. Cracks me up.


I got ya man, but frankly, what would you have 'em driving for squad cars when they shot the movie in the mid 1980s? Flying DeLoreans? tongue

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:17 am Reply with quote

Police cars were big, blocky, ugly things when RoboCop was made. When the Crown Vic went back into production (and subsequently became the de facto police vehicle) it took many of its styling cues from the Taurus.

At least they never used the car they built specifically for Robo... that thing was a friggin' joke!
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:38 pm Reply with quote

Anybody know how much Robo is supposed to weigh. It's just like in terminator, this real heavy machine gets in and out of a car, or on a motorcycle, and the suspension doesn't sag or lean anymore than if a normal person was getting into or onto them.



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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:09 am Reply with quote

Right question Demise ! ( I m here really long time but really dont know the answer )

But of the things we had chance to see in films and series .. I think he is much more lighter then Terminator !

In the R1 we can to see Lewis what did not have problem help him get into the car when he was running from Jones .

In Robocop 2,3 he was carried by a few persons . In R3 it was three guys oh also Niko managed to carry his leg Laughing

Robocop the series it managed also two men ..

well so the summary .. he is probably lighter than Terminator
I was reading somewhere it is 200kg . so how it is ? knows someone ?
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:33 pm Reply with quote

200Kg (440Lbs) is actually fairly heavy. I'd say he's supposed to be lighter than that, though maybe not by much. I wouldn't say he's lighter than the Terminator, as the Terminator is meant to be much closer to human weight, but I would think RoboCop really ain't as heavy as some might think.

That figure sounds like it's off the breakdown picture of RoboCop that we've seen before, though I thought it said 200 Lbs. Confused I don't remember, and I can't seem to find that picture right now.

In any case, that might be worth starting another topic for, actually. I thought there was one like that somewhere but there doesn't seem to be.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:27 am Reply with quote

PD said he weighed about 500 pounds, but really, that's far too heavy to be able to drive around in the standard police cars. I think it seems feasible for Robo to be between 200 and 300 pounds, considering the higher level of robotics technology in the films and Robo's armored skin.

Honda's ASIMO has some specs online, including its prototypes...

In 1996, ASIMO weighed in at 463 pounds (210kg) at a height of 6 feet (183cm).

In '97, ASIMO stood 5'4" (163cm) and weighed 287lbs (130kg).

Circa 2000, ASIMO was four feet tall (122cm) and weighed 115lbs (52kg).

ASIMO is now 4'3" (130cm) and weighs 119lbs (54kg).
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:01 am Reply with quote

Now all we need is the specs if Asimo was wrapped in titanium laminated with kevlar. And a couple feet taller.



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Police cars were big, blocky, ugly things when RoboCop was made. When the Crown Vic went back into production (and subsequently became the de facto police vehicle) it took many of its styling cues from the Taurus.

At least they never used the car they built specifically for Robo... that thing was a friggin' joke!
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