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I decided to add another chapter and give it a separate spotlight. In case someone missed it, here was the list of siliness in the first chapter from the movie

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Sure would be. I noticed so many signature elements for a cartoon, and when you have a script for a cartoon with an elementary school humor (picking nose...) and youre presenting it through a live action movie, its really silly. Just for fun, heres my commentary on the first chapter of R3 titled "Eviction" on trilogy DVD. Ironically, its probably the least flawed from them all.

*I realy like the opening, probably the best thing about the movie. I find it funny how the father in the opening Delta City commercial looks like George Clooney. And I also like the fact that the Delta City is becoming a reality, althought something;s wrong here - wasn't Delta City already well into development in the first movie, with a large part of the city already built?
Mediabreak was cool too, althought I missed Jess.

* And here's where it goes downhill and ridiculousness starts. Right away we're presented with the first example of the shameless and corny stereotype, one of many many in the movie. R3 is probably the most stereotype and cliche loaded movie of the 90s, with only several cheap 80s B movies matching its level.
-We have a computer genius kid who is Asian...(cliche and sterotype in one)
-We have a good family represented as multiracial with caucasian male and asian female, a typical set for Disney and 80s family movies

* And here's when we say goodbye to logic for the first time: The wrecking ball hits the house suddenly when there was nothing around but peace and quiet. Well, what happened to the crowds on the streets? what happened to all the halogen lights, Rehab trucks and commotion on the streets? What happened to the Rehab officers with megaphones? I mean, I can easily forgive not hearing the giant crane outside cause thats a pretty minor thing which worked for the scene, but not to hear Rehabs and all the commotion, and then suddenly having a riot outside? The way it was presented just doesnt work at all, it falls flat on its behind

*Rehab loading the gun for gramma was just silly and completely unnecessary. Its a silly element borrowed from cartoons where kids are reminded of the danger, like growling dog for example, even if the angry dog is onscreen nonethless. But kids dont focus as much as adults, thats why they have to be reminded in a very unsubtle way of what theyre seeing. So the gun wasnt enough, it had to be reloaded by a big angry guy to make it visible. Thats NOT the same thing as uncocking the gun in the movie - the gun HAS to be uncocked and serves a different purpose: showing that the person is serious about and ready to shoot.

* Now, why would rehabs pull Nikko from her parents and then just release her? I was wondering why are they separated in the first place and thought that maybe kids have a separate bus, but then I go"what the hell?" when they manage to pull her away, they just leave her.

"you broken cow":...ah, PG 13. The thing is PG 13 allows to say "bitch" at least. I think the movie shouldve been rated PG. If I would use an insult like this against someone, Im pretty sure that person would be pretty confused and ask me if Im gay. Its in the same vein as "you silly goose"

* So everyones gone but not Nikko and shes screaming on top of her lungs, yet nobody noticed her and everyone just left. Oooh-kay?

* lol, what was the rehab doing there standing still like a statue with the lights off not moving?
And who turned on the lights in the van? there was no one inside and he didnt move. And why did he fire a shot? That would only scare her away!
And why didnt he react earlier when she was screaming there for a long time walking around

* we see another cartoon element which will became a big pattern in this movie - things being conveniently handed or placed just when and where they needed. Nikko falls just in front of the van's door

So thats that for Chapter one


So lets go to the next Chapter titled Arming up

* factual error: after Bertha and her team blow up the gates we see some pieces burning around. Well, its iron, it wouldnt catch on fire. Still, its something I can easily forget since it serves the story by showing a cooler amount of destruction

* No one's watching the surveillance cameras that are planted all over the place?

* Bertha and the gang enter the Police Ordnance depot, they find an ED-209 waiting for them. It threatens to shoot them, but instead of running, they just stand there. They didn't know the girl was some kind of computer nerd that could reprogram ED-209, but for nearly 20 seconds, they just stand there.

* Just because Niko is a fan of RoboCop doesn't mean she can hack an ED-209. Where would she get the model diagrams of an ED-209 to be able to find where he can be controlled from? Where would she get something that wouuld surely be top sceret, the blueprints for a military weapon? Even during this scene, ED lifts the leg that Niko is working on and there's no sight of her.

The last time we saw ED in action was blasting a guy to pieces. he was presented as a serious and dangerous weapon that cannot be fully controlled. here, its downgraged to a toy that a 9 year od can control, never even scratching anybody

* Even when ED is counting down, they still just stand there in the line of fire even tho theyre right by the gate where they can duck. Plus, a little kid reprogrammed Ed 209 in about 10 seconds. Some piece of equipment...

* "All we have to do is figure out how to get this door open"...mm, okay, so they used detonators to open the gate. Well, thats a clue. Not to mention it wouldve been easier to just jump through the gate and use the charges for the door just in case. We then get Disney music in the background followed by some cute moves from Nikko and ED blasting the door


Any more additions to that chapter?




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Ah, what the heck, Ill add another one. This one's titled Police Activity

* Here we see the first example of how Dekker confused SATIRE with COMEDY. We have a scene that could as well be in National Lampoon with Chevy Chase or even better - Police Academy. The guy walks in to a donut shop/night diner (what kind of choice is that?), visibly looks around (and he sure would anyway) and doesnt see any cops. Pulls out the shotgun and we then see the place is packed with cops. Only in cartoon baby. We then see a typical Police Academy moments like the cops shown to be lazy morons not following procedures and acting like high school boys. Where's Mahoney? And need I add what an old and juvenile stereotype and cliche this is? Cops in a donut place?

* more cartoon dialogue and comedy lines :"he's not big on donuts", and then you actually hear the two guys talking about how cyborgs dont eat...

* one of many shameless attemempts to copy the original: Lewis chewing gum, the throwback about the Amazon war and the suspects in a van. Typical hollywood move - screw story and art, just follow a formula this time. Do a movie thats more similar to the one that made more $. Paint by numbers. A kind of "sucking up to the original" situation. "it feels like something being made because someone sees a successful format, rather than something they want to say" - avrev.com

* Lewis in pursuit calling the central. Yet all other units are busy...eating donuts...

* More cartoony lines between the two cops in the car with "watch it" talk

* More sucking up to the original: SUX. And you can see clearly that Lewis' car is empty when it skids upside down, but thats a technical error, so I dont care for that really. The cops had an accident yet no backup arrives even tho they didnt really drive that far from the donut stop. But again, theyre all too busy eating donuts, right?

* first signs of heavy censorship of violence, the exact opposite of what Verhoeven likes - we see a small red dot and no actual damage when the civilian gets shot with an..uh..arrow?

* Who gave that cop a badge? Why is he using a shotgun in such situation? First of all, none of the splatter punks are visible yet so theres no target, secondly, its impossible to accurately aim the shotgun from such distance or more importantly, hit something! Yet he's pumping shot after shot! Duh...And why wont they just leave the place and start backing up in a defensive formation? (covering up each other, walking backwards)

* When did Reed became an asshole? When did orders become more important to him than his deputy's safety?? Its even more confusing by the actions that he'll take later in the very same movie

* Why Robo didnt just shut the radio off? Why he had to make a hole and smash his device altogether?

* the moron cops wasted all their ammo shooting at empty space and the genius shotgun cop didnt even realize he was out of ammo. Well, no surprise here since he didnt even know the range and possibilities of a shotgun

* why are Splatterpunks considered such danger? Theyre no different than any other punks - wearing knives and other stabbing weapons and using Molotov cocktails. What makes them so dangerous? Not to mention they all look like friends of Bebop and Rocksteady from Ninja Turtles

* We see the first signs of a toy commercial - Robo, with detachable arms! Exactly like Kenner and Mattel action gifures, with all those exchangable arms and accessories.

* Taurus cannot go through concrete...not to mention the Taurus seems completely unaffected by that stunt. Not even a dent in the bumper

* One of the most ridiculous scene in the movie: Robo shoots the roof and makes a hole to get through it and ask the punks to stop. I mean, LOL. Does it need a commentary? Why not just open the door???? Not only would it be quicker and would be better for the surprise effect, but it would also save ammo and wouldnt destroy the car! Only in cartoon baby. Of course kids dont question that, they see something that looks "kool" and dont think logically. BUt for an adult this is simply ridiculous and things like that make it impossible for an adult to get into that movie and suspend the disbelief

We also get to hear Robo's mega low Arnold-like voice in this scene for the first time. Not only is the voice super thick, but with a very strong echo effect. We also get introduced to the Robot-Robo. NO "leave them alone scum" comments, just the official GPS talk.
"In some scenes he sounds like a dumb jock or a surfer dude" - combustiblecelluloid.com about Burke's performance.

See, I dont blame Burke. I blame the script and the directions given by the director. Although Im sure if Weller was around he would say that this is not how Robo talks and acts like

* More GPS talks with Lewis and then another cartoony scene with catching a bullet. That will create some serioous inconsistencies later on, but thats later. Oh and still no backup. Those cops must be really busy with those donuts few streets away




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Real good so far, KidsGoWild. I hope MGM read this before thinking about reboot the whole trilogy! Im waiting for more.



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KidGoesWild :
Where's Mahoney?


He sailed off with Sharon Stone in a hot air balloon, remember? mr green

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first signs of heavy censorship of violence, the exact opposite of what Verhoeven likes - we see a small red dot and no actual damage when the civilian gets shot with an..uh..arrow?


Though the damage effect is piss-poor, he was hit with a bullet from a gun - If you listen closely, you'll hear a subdued gunshot 'boom' immediately after he is hit, which would actually be quite accurate if he was shot by a gun firing supersonic rounds at some distance away.

The actual 'damage' effect is still shit, as you and I both said. If he got hit from the back, the back (entry-wound) might look closer to that, but a good portion of the front of his fuckin chest would be all over Lewis if the bullet actually exited - Or at least, I'm sure Verhoeven would have shown it like that anyway.

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* why are Splatterpunks considered such danger? Theyre no different than any other punks - wearing knives and other stabbing weapons and using Molotov cocktails. What makes them so dangerous? Not to mention they all look like friends of Bebop and Rocksteady from Ninja Turtles


Well, I imagine anyone's dangerous when you're outnumbered 2-3 to one, especially when they have weapons of any sort and you're more-or-less unarmed. Plus at least one of them had a SMG, which you see him shoot very briefly in vain when Robo starts wastin' 'em.

But your point leading up to it is spot on, why would they even start shooting? These ain't soldiers in the damn jungle where a stray round MIGHT actually hit something, these bastards were taking cover behind buildings and staying well out of range.

Sorry man, I just wanted to address a couple of things, not meaning to take away from your entire piece, which is spot-on. Looks like I even added a couple things, too. Oh well, I guess. tongue

Overall man, I'm liking your piece(s) here - They remind me a lot of this page on T3.

All-in-all, this thing is going great, I'm just nitpicking little bullshit. Keep it up anyway man. Wink
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Great stuff, love it. There's so much stupid stuff that i never even thought about.

Please continue with more chapters! Smile




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*Rehab loading the gun for gramma was just silly and completely unnecessary. Its a silly element borrowed from cartoons where kids are reminded of the danger, like growling dog for example, even if the angry dog is onscreen nonethless.


It's funny... when I saw that for the first time, for some reason (maybe it was his delivery), I thought he was showing that his gun was EMPTY, and remembering thinking, "what was the point of that?" tongue

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"you broken cow":...ah, PG 13. The thing is PG 13 allows to say "bitch" at least. I think the movie shouldve been rated PG. If I would use an insult like this against someone, Im pretty sure that person would be pretty confused and ask me if Im gay. Its in the same vein as "you silly goose"


I thought he said "drunken cow"...? That would have been better, if not.

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* lol, what was the rehab doing there standing still like a statue with the lights off not moving?


Wasn't he wearing IR goggles too? Which brings up too things:
1) Why wouldn't he try to sneak up on her while he had the dark to cover him?
2) Why would his numb-nuts partner in the van BLIND HIM with that giant light?
People are damn goofy. Smile

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The last time we saw ED in action was blasting a guy to pieces.


Actually, the last time we saw him he was stuck in a manhole. Which kinda makes his "watchdog" demotion in this film a bit more appropriate. tongue

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* When did Reed became an asshole? When did orders become more important to him than his deputy's safety?? Its even more confusing by the actions that he'll take later in the very same movie


He did mention that there were three other vehicles en route to Lewis, so that's anywhere from 3-6 cops for backup (assuming they were all cruisers). I don't think it's really an asshole move because no one could have guessed they wouldn't make it in time if Robo followed orders--especially when rebels have been ripping off gun depots and a battered yellow van with no plates is your only lead.

Otherwise, some really great points here. I've one to add: Mr. Fancy-Pants Splatter Punk with his Batarang-like blade... I don't care if the fuzz were out of ammo, who the hell brings a knife to a gun fight?! I'll tell you who: a Fancy-Pants Splatter Punk. With a Mohawk. Damn straight. Smile




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KGW :
first signs of heavy censorship of violence, the exact opposite of what Verhoeven likes - we see a small red dot and no actual damage when the civilian gets shot with an..uh..arrow?


Though the damage effect is piss-poor, he was hit with a bullet from a gun - If you listen closely, you'll hear a subdued gunshot 'boom' immediately after he is hit, which would actually be quite accurate if he was shot by a gun firing supersonic rounds at some distance away.


Yeah, but Verhoeven and Kershner would actually show the wound from the angle where the guy was hit. If Im not mistaken, thats also the only instance where we see blood in this movie. I may be wrong tho. You know, I understand that this was a movie for little boys, but Robocop wasnt a franchise for little boys to beginn with. As I said in a different thread, the gore wasnt there just to blow intestants, its there to give the story the real-ness and edge. Thats how it looks like in real life, its ugly, its terrifying. It doesnt cut back to something else and it doesnt just look like a blood stain. The whole thing (R1 & R2) was a satire on the darkest side of reality, with many innuendos and real social problems. Thats why Robo shouldnt be just a kids story with a robot cop in the first place. Its called missing the mark completely as far as what the story and what the series was



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Well, I imagine anyone's dangerous when you're outnumbered 2-3 to one, especially when they weapons of any sort and you're more-or-less unarmed. Plus at least one of them had a SMG, which you see him shoot very briefly in vain when Robo starts wastin' 'em.

But your point leading up to it is spot on, why would they even start shooting? These ain't soldiers in the damn jungle where a stray round MIGHT actually hit something, these bastards were taking cover behind buildings and staying well out of range.


My point is that they alsmot crapped their pants when they saw the splatterpunks logo on the pole. Yet we get the regular slums punk gang, nothing more. Almost all of them seem to be unarmed (with firearms) as evidenced by the first and latter scenes, except for the two pirates (???) who shot at Robo. Not to mention cops immediately pulled out their guns and shotguns...for regular punk group! tongue





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Actually, the last time we saw him he was stuck in a manhole. Which kinda makes his "watchdog" demotion in this film a bit more appropriate. tongue


I know, thats why I said IN ACTION Wink

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* When did Reed became an asshole? When did orders become more important to him than his deputy's safety?? Its even more confusing by the actions that he'll take later in the very same movie


He did mention that there were three other vehicles en route to Lewis, so that's anywhere from 3-6 cops for backup (assuming they were all cruisers). I don't think it's really an asshole move because no one could have guessed they wouldn't make it in time if Robo followed orders--especially when rebels have been ripping off gun depots and a battered yellow van with no plates is your only lead.


I know but just like the audience, Reed would surely know that Robo is Lewis' best option, especially since her LIFE was on line




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Anyways, next chapter: Splatter Punks

* we see the two splatterpunks, Bebop and Rocksteady, run as fast as they can. Yet Robo, with his slow motion walk, catches up to them almost instantly. They would successfully loose him by just walking away

* so they toss bottles with flamable liquid into Robo and he's just standing there...Robo from the first two movies would just simply take them down, but the robot-Robo here is just standing there watching, even when they aim the flare at him. And even when he gets ingited, he still doesnt shoot!!! He just continues to slowly walk towards them...what the? I understand its a PG 13 movie, but then a good writign requires to create situations that would work for the rating, not sacrifice logic

* why the splatterpunk has to be completely focused to pull the trigger? He doesnt. Its another cartoony scene. Only in cartoon baby. Robo throws a line and does something he was doing the whole time they were throwing bottles at him - aims at them. Only surprisingly this time they noticed it and took it seriously.

* Another robot_robo GPS line - "Im fine Anne. Thank you for asking". Sounds like the reprogrammed screwed up Robo from the previous movie. And has as much tone in his speech as ATM machine

* Something I noticed: where the hell is Lewis' armor???

* Robo and Lewis see families being separated by force, yet surprisingly they do nothing about it this time around

- One of few good scenes in the movie: When Robo looks at the crucifix its a nice little moment




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Next Chapter: Judgment Calls

*More stereotypes: Big japanese corporation and fat and dumb american CEO

* More comedy instead of satire in the conference room

* no explanation about what happend to OCP and Old Man.When I first saw R3 I just assumed that the RoboCain incident led to Old Man's prosecution and that he couldnt get away with it after all. I also thought that this and the payments to the families of the victims and all the legal repercussions led to the demise of OCP and the state it was in R3 (greatly falling and partially owned by Kanemitsu).

But when I rewatched R3 for the first time in ages I realized that it doesnt add up to what I always thought. The CEO spokes highly about the Old Man. He wouldnt if they would be talking about a corrupted prosecuted criminal, and theres no mention of the attack from the previous movie. I quickly realized that theres really no explanation - they dropped the ball. Well, kids wouldnt care because they werent suppose to see the first two movies anyway, right?

* more shameless and forced ties to the original movie in the form of Delta City and Johnson sucking up like Bob did in R1. While its not necessarily a crime in itself, compounded with all the other throwback scenes it just creates something that wants to suck up and forcingly tie itself to the original masterpiece. And if Im not mistaken, Delta City already started to rise in R1. We see Robo entering Delta City with quite a few skyscrapers already risen when he's on his way to Jones' office. With all fairness, its an incosistency in itself in R1 so I wont bag on R3 for it

* We get introduced to Otomo, a ninja android (another stereotype btw - Japan=Ninja), a villain that was called the worst villain ever by IGN.Before seeing R3 I was wondering how the Robocop II Monster can be topped? It couldn't and it wasn't. Japanese guy in black is such a step down that its laughable. Still, in-universe he may be faster, stronger etc, but is there any possibility that a simple asian guy dressed in black can be more fascinating and breath taking than ED 209 or RoboCain? Japanese Ninja androids Otomo proved to be a weak idea coming after such extravaganza. We already had life-like cyborgs and terminator and any other movie did a much better job. Also, there was no skeleton visible, nothing. About the only thing we got was fractured face - pretty lame in the era of very nice looking cyborg skeletons (*cough* Terminator)

* We see one of the worst scenes in the movie - a Police Academy version of the scene from the first movie with the suspect and his attorney in Reed's face. While the scene in R1 presented flaws in our laws and the burocracy, here its just a straight out, simple parody with a big black guy dressed as a girl with a lollipop...nuff said. We also see another tie to the original in the form of Cecil

* More GPS robot-robo - "You look like youve been friends with a mac truck" , "I dont have many-friends"...uh, robo, this is something called joke. Im sure robots dont understand that but humans sometimes joke around and arent always literal in their statement. Seriously, you want to tell me this automat was a human being one time? No way!Marie was right in that this robot utilizes human tissue, but she was completely wrong about Murphy being there somewhere. Theres no Murphy there, thats for sure. Not a single trace of him or any humanity or personality. He is even more alien to human emotions and behavior than he ever was, even in the first part of R1 when he was just a cyborg with wiped out memory

* Fleck is actually a good character (to a point) because he has that classic OCP asshole personality to him. I just dont understand why the Robot_Robo doesnt even pay attention to the conversation Marie has with Fleck about wiping his memory

* THE WINNER: my favorite, and the absolute king of ridiculousness here - Fleck orders to wipe out Robo's memory and - get ready for it - it so happened that the Doc JUST had the microneurobarrier to wiping out Robocop memories in his pocket!! Laughing Laughing Laughing How convenient! But you know, never leave home without it Wink
Also, here's a couple logical problems with that idiotic device:
- Everything that had something to do with Murphy's brain was done when they were constructing him, because - well, the changes to the brain have to be done surgically, thats why they wiped out his memory right off the bat, right in the first stages when they were dealing with brain, because...
-...if it could be done in any other way, they would wipe out his memory again again when he gained it back in R1 or in R2 when Murphy's persona was resisting the new directives. The idea of just planting a chip somewhere without taking Robo apart or complicated surgery is just laughable. And how funny that after all these years someone from OCP, who's not even a scientist would think of an idea of erasing Murphy from Robocop. If it couldve been done, it wouldve been done a long time ago

* When Marie and Lewis look at the monitors and reflex over Murphy's memories, Robot-robo is completely absent and unresponsive, like a piece of equipment

* We then see Marie watching Murphy's memories so she can feel sorry for him. If you ask me, its pretty obvious she wouldnt erase his memory even without seeing the videos again, but like in every kids movie, everything has to be spelled out and shown in a painfully obvious way. In this case the young audience may not assume that Marie feels erasing those memories is wrong, so they have to be shown a scene where the video memories are supposedly making her decision harder




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My point is that they alsmot crapped their pants when they saw the splatterpunks logo on the pole. Yet we get the regular slums punk gang, nothing more. Almost all of them seem to be unarmed (with firearms) as evidenced by the first and latter scenes, except for the two pirates (???) who shot at Robo. Not to mention cops immediately pulled out their guns and shotguns...for regular punk group! tongue


Oh well, that's certainly true. After all, these were supposed to be the same cops who charged full-steam into Cain's hideout back in R2. Lewis also went in with just Murphy against the multiple-cop-killer Boddicker. And yeah, they're scared shitless of these pecker-necks? Good point.

Well, that's all - The other stuff is sounding good, keep going. Smile
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Next stop - Chapter titled Serve The Public

* Why is Robo asking questions he already knows the answers for? I really dont understand what was the purpose of that line about Lewis' brother. I know it was suppose to add some tension and uncertainty about Robo's memory, but like this? Otherwise this line just doesnt make sense logically.(sarcasm on) And why is that robot asking to call him Murphy? (sarcasm off)

* Why the hell is Robo aiming a gun at the people in the church? Not only they werent armed but they also didnt pose any threat and didnt even move. And he doesnt stop aiming at them untill the rehabs arrive and take his attention with the lights

* Do rehabs really have a teleportation device? Its the second time they suddenly appear out of a thin air. Lewis came in from the outside, she would surely see some approaching cars or just about anything. It was a quiet and empty and late night. 4 seconds after she enters the church from the outside we hear rehabs. Robo and Lewis take a peek outside and..surprise! Suddenly the whole place is surrounded by rehabs who are already formed in tactical formation, packed all of their cars and vans around, prepared their weapons and the entire equipment including the search lights. They just materialized out of thin air, they surely have some teleportation device, right? ONLY in cartoon baby

* What the hell is Directive 4 doing back after so many years? I thought it was obvious that it was taken down after the events in R1 when it presented its flaws and contradiction to law. A man was taken hostage and the attacker and murder suspect couldnt be handled by Police Officer because of that directive. Logically, it was absent in R2. So what is that doing back here now? Not to mention in R1 he just couldnt arrest a high rank OCP guy, it never said anything about obeying them. "Never oppose an OCP officer". Well, I think writers themselves instantly forgot what directive they gave Robo because he simply breaks that rule with ease - he doesnt listen to Mcdagget, he doest step away from the door. He just cannot shoot him, which would indicate that Directive 4 is the same one as in R1 - that he cannot arrest or kill OCP guys. But the incosistent writing and a bad plothole says that thats not what the directive says, and he breaks it like that yet his programm doesnt allow him to do something thats not even listed in his directives. Duh..

* What happened with Lewis' IQ? First of all, why on Earth is she challenging the entire squadron of armed and armored rehabs with one handgun, NO ARMOR and NO COVER? In R2, even when shes armored like a soldeir with body armor and helmet, she still uses Robo for cover. HEre she stands there like a duck, IN FRONT OF ROBO, with nothing to hide behind, no body armor..I mean, its so completely devoided of any logic that its mind blowing.

* Its also amazing how now Robo and Lewis are taking a stand for the evicted people when rehabs want them out of the building, yet they did completely nothing when they witnessed parents being separated from children with force

*Well ok, Robo doesnt shoot a high rank OCP officer for some reason (and of course, we know that because of the bad writing the writers confused or incorrectly wrte the Directive 4), why isnt he just shooting the other rehabs then? Is he suppose to listen to the regular recruits too? Wow, thats pretty bad then

* One of the worst GPS-Robocop moments in the entire movie. Lewis gets shot, shes dying. Yet he STILL doesnt show ANY kind of emotion. Nothing. Instead he talks like a factory robot or GPS by just coldly stating the facts in a monotone voice. When Lewis got shot in R1, Robo shouted "Lewis!!" on the top of his lungs, with both fear and concern in his scream. Can you imagine the same Robo doing what the GPS-Robo is doing here?




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Next Chapter: Underground

* "Im fine". The girl should learn that she wotn get anything out of this GPS-Robo and that its really hard to communicate with it.


* "tracking" - more of the deep dialogue from GPS-robo


* Next question: how on earth did Nikko ever got technical data and project bluperints for Robocop? Wasnt it a top secret project? How would she get into OCP and access the technical files on Robocop to know every piece of his body and even where the tracker is found!!!?? Data that even Robo doesnt know himself? Why wont she fix him then?

* It took rehabs a veeeery long time to find a manhole

*"Set an extra place" - umm, so theyre only setting one extra place? What about all the people they gathered from the streets? The people from the church? They dont deserve any space?

* How convenient that just when Marie turned on the tv, they were just explaining what happened. They just started. It wasnt in the middle of anything, nothing.



Next Chapter: Reparations

*More comedy instead of satire in representing OCP's fall

* Typical cartoon element: everytime the villain appears he has a theme. And in here we also get a stereotype too - since Otomo is Japanese, every time he appears in the frame we hear a Japanese music. Cartoon all the way

* Android smoking cigarettes doesnt really look coool...

* Otomo walks away and we hear the ancient Japanese music again ...lol

* Fleck ultimately proves to be yet another caricature straight out of a comedy. The way he acts, the whole dialogue and the execution of that scene - pure comedy

* Uber siliness - little girl walks into Police Department and no one notices her. And thats not all, she even walks into Robocop's lab - unnoticed! How come some crooks never walked into his lab before then to mess something up if a little girl without anybody around her could just parade all over Police Department and enter such secure area.




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* It took rehabs a veeeery long time to find a manhole


I always figured they were following the tracking beacon, so maybe they just followed it to nearest manhole? Just a thought.

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*"Set an extra place" - umm, so theyre only setting one extra place? What about all the people they gathered from the streets? The people from the church? They dont deserve any space?


I believe they already had hideout places set up for the regular refugees/rebels, as indicated by the map Otomo captures later. She might have wanted to set an 'extra' place to put Robo since they couldn't move him as far.

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* Uber siliness - little girl walks into Police Department and no one notices her. And thats not all, she even walks into Robocop's lab - unnoticed! How come some crooks never walked into his lab before then to mess something up if a little girl without anybody around her could just parade all over Police Department and enter such secure area.


That's something that always made me cringe. In addition, she literally walks into a bunch of cops and NONE of them stop her! Granted they're all storming out, but you'd think one of them might think to stop and ask some little girl what the hell she's doing in a police station, in an area that's undoubtedly supposed to be off-limits to civilians. Hell, I think one of the dumb donut-hogs actually says 'excuse me' when they walk around Nikko. Bah.
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* It took rehabs a veeeery long time to find a manhole


I always figured they were following the tracking beacon, so maybe they just followed it to nearest manhole? Just a thought.


Thats most likely what they were aiming for. But then it creates more logical problems - how did they want to engage a large number of armed people along with robocop from the top? Wouldnt it be better to just enter any manhole and follow the tunnels rather than have such a huge disadvantage of entering from the top?

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*"Set an extra place" - umm, so theyre only setting one extra place? What about all the people they gathered from the streets? The people from the church? They dont deserve any space?


I believe they already had hideout places set up for the regular refugees/rebels, as indicated by the map Otomo captures later. She might have wanted to set an 'extra' place to put Robo since they couldn't move him as far.



Doubtful because - well, they didnt specify its for a robot. Bertha just told them to set an extra place for a friend and thats it, even thought they had so many refugees with them. I doubt they already had their places because they couldnt predict how many refigees theyre gonna bring this time around. It seems like a logical thing for Bertha to do to tell them how many extra beds and supplies they need before they arrive. Yet here she just needs one. Bertha's line was suppose to be dramatical but didnt have sense.


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That's something that always made me cringe. In addition, she literally walks into a bunch of cops and NONE of them stop her! Granted they're all storming out, but you'd think one of them might think to stop and ask some little girl what the hell she's doing in a police station, in an area that's undoubtedly supposed to be off-limits to civilians. Hell, I think one of the dumb donut-hogs actually says 'excuse me' when they walk around Nikko. Bah.


Yeah. And whats even crazier is that she accessed Robo's lab!




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