Robocop the 1994 series - Soon on Blu Ray??

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[cobrahunter187]

Since it's a one disc release, i think it'll be a dvd quality disc stuffed with all episodes from the show, that's just cheap

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Since it's a one disc release, i think it'll be a dvd quality disc stuffed with all episodes from the show, that's just cheap

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Since it's a one disc release, i think it'll be a dvd quality disc stuffed with all episodes from the show, that's just cheap

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Since it's a one disc release, i think it'll be a dvd quality disc stuffed with all episodes from the show, that's just cheap

[Nash]

release date is 07. Oktober 2011

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release date is 07. Oktober 2011

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release date is 07. Oktober 2011

[Paddy]

It says it is presented in 16:9 on the back... so have they gone and remastered the show from the original film negatives (was it even filmed on 35mm or direct to tape?) or have they made a mistake?

Also, if it's all on one BluRay, how have they managed to squeeze around 20 hours of footage onto one BluRay? The video quality must be shocking...
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It says it is presented in 16:9 on the back... so have they gone and remastered the show from the original film negatives (was it even filmed on 35mm or direct to tape?) or have they made a mistake?

Also, if it's all on one BluRay, how have they managed to squeeze around 20 hours of footage onto one BluRay? The video quality must be shocking...
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It says it is presented in 16:9 on the back... so have they gone and remastered the show from the original film negatives (was it even filmed on 35mm or direct to tape?) or have they made a mistake?

Also, if it's all on one BluRay, how have they managed to squeeze around 20 hours of footage onto one BluRay? The video quality must be shocking...
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It says it is presented in 16:9 on the back... so have they gone and remastered the show from the original film negatives (was it even filmed on 35mm or direct to tape?) or have they made a mistake?

Also, if it's all on one BluRay, how have they managed to squeeze around 20 hours of footage onto one BluRay? The video quality must be shocking...
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I think it was filmed on 35mm.

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I think it was filmed on 35mm.

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I think it was filmed on 35mm.

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[Paddy]

35mm film is naturally 15:9 so it's not far off widescreen which is 16:9. We have Friends, Buffy and Frasier, programmes filmed and broadcast for 4:3 but they have went back and remastered the original negatives and released them in HD and in 16:9 so they are slightly cropped but they look so much better then they did originally. They may have done this for the series, but I doubt it. It'll be interesting to see the review from people that buy it. If they can post screenrabs so we can have a side by side comparison.
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35mm film is naturally 15:9 so it's not far off widescreen which is 16:9. We have Friends, Buffy and Frasier, programmes filmed and broadcast for 4:3 but they have went back and remastered the original negatives and released them in HD and in 16:9 so they are slightly cropped but they look so much better then they did originally. They may have done this for the series, but I doubt it. It'll be interesting to see the review from people that buy it. If they can post screenrabs so we can have a side by side comparison.
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35mm film is naturally 15:9 so it's not far off widescreen which is 16:9. We have Friends, Buffy and Frasier, programmes filmed and broadcast for 4:3 but they have went back and remastered the original negatives and released them in HD and in 16:9 so they are slightly cropped but they look so much better then they did originally. They may have done this for the series, but I doubt it. It'll be interesting to see the review from people that buy it. If they can post screenrabs so we can have a side by side comparison.
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35mm film is naturally 15:9 so it's not far off widescreen which is 16:9. We have Friends, Buffy and Frasier, programmes filmed and broadcast for 4:3 but they have went back and remastered the original negatives and released them in HD and in 16:9 so they are slightly cropped but they look so much better then they did originally. They may have done this for the series, but I doubt it. It'll be interesting to see the review from people that buy it. If they can post screenrabs so we can have a side by side comparison.
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[Johan]

My knowledge on this is limited at best, but even if the shows were filmed in widescreen, i assume any FX would still have been made for 4:3. (and some shows might even have been edited on video)

With RoboCop in particular we got a lot of POV shots and background paintings which I doubt they made in widescreen. I could be wrong but it all seems unlikely that they went back and made all that extra effort on RoboCop when there are so many shows out there begging for a blu-ray release.

I expect a lousy upscaled HD version, but i hope i'm wrong.

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My knowledge on this is limited at best, but even if the shows were filmed in widescreen, i assume any FX would still have been made for 4:3. (and some shows might even have been edited on video)

With RoboCop in particular we got a lot of POV shots and background paintings which I doubt they made in widescreen. I could be wrong but it all seems unlikely that they went back and made all that extra effort on RoboCop when there are so many shows out there begging for a blu-ray release.

I expect a lousy upscaled HD version, but i hope i'm wrong.

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My knowledge on this is limited at best, but even if the shows were filmed in widescreen, i assume any FX would still have been made for 4:3. (and some shows might even have been edited on video)

With RoboCop in particular we got a lot of POV shots and background paintings which I doubt they made in widescreen. I could be wrong but it all seems unlikely that they went back and made all that extra effort on RoboCop when there are so many shows out there begging for a blu-ray release.

I expect a lousy upscaled HD version, but i hope i'm wrong.

[Dash]

Since my time in post-production, generally all programs are mastered in 16:9 and, if necessary, cropped to what's called 4:3 Pillarbox (remember on old 4:3 TVs when watching a 16:9 image on them, the black bars at the top/bottom are called "letterbox"? "Pillarbox" is the reverse of that: a 4:3 image on a 16:9 display). Some broadcasters still require this format, even in HD (which is a waste of money, since the sides are going to get cut off anyway; there's no sense "pillarboxing" your master, but that's just my opinion).

Now, like I said, that's how things work since I've worked in the biz. I don't know if they mastered in 16:9 back then, but to me, it wouldn't make sense not to. HDTV didn't begin its first broadcast until 1998, but the tech has been in development since the 1970's. I can ask some guys at work that might know. The Series came through our facility back when it was shooting, so it would be nice if we got the business for the Blu-Rays. In all likelihood though, it probably won't.

I might buy the Series if it was released on Blu-Ray, though.

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Since my time in post-production, generally all programs are mastered in 16:9 and, if necessary, cropped to what's called 4:3 Pillarbox (remember on old 4:3 TVs when watching a 16:9 image on them, the black bars at the top/bottom are called "letterbox"? "Pillarbox" is the reverse of that: a 4:3 image on a 16:9 display). Some broadcasters still require this format, even in HD (which is a waste of money, since the sides are going to get cut off anyway; there's no sense "pillarboxing" your master, but that's just my opinion).

Now, like I said, that's how things work since I've worked in the biz. I don't know if they mastered in 16:9 back then, but to me, it wouldn't make sense not to. HDTV didn't begin its first broadcast until 1998, but the tech has been in development since the 1970's. I can ask some guys at work that might know. The Series came through our facility back when it was shooting, so it would be nice if we got the business for the Blu-Rays. In all likelihood though, it probably won't.

I might buy the Series if it was released on Blu-Ray, though.

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Since my time in post-production, generally all programs are mastered in 16:9 and, if necessary, cropped to what's called 4:3 Pillarbox (remember on old 4:3 TVs when watching a 16:9 image on them, the black bars at the top/bottom are called "letterbox"? "Pillarbox" is the reverse of that: a 4:3 image on a 16:9 display). Some broadcasters still require this format, even in HD (which is a waste of money, since the sides are going to get cut off anyway; there's no sense "pillarboxing" your master, but that's just my opinion).

Now, like I said, that's how things work since I've worked in the biz. I don't know if they mastered in 16:9 back then, but to me, it wouldn't make sense not to. HDTV didn't begin its first broadcast until 1998, but the tech has been in development since the 1970's. I can ask some guys at work that might know. The Series came through our facility back when it was shooting, so it would be nice if we got the business for the Blu-Rays. In all likelihood though, it probably won't.

I might buy the Series if it was released on Blu-Ray, though.

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Since my time in post-production, generally all programs are mastered in 16:9 and, if necessary, cropped to what's called 4:3 Pillarbox (remember on old 4:3 TVs when watching a 16:9 image on them, the black bars at the top/bottom are called "letterbox"? "Pillarbox" is the reverse of that: a 4:3 image on a 16:9 display). Some broadcasters still require this format, even in HD (which is a waste of money, since the sides are going to get cut off anyway; there's no sense "pillarboxing" your master, but that's just my opinion).

Now, like I said, that's how things work since I've worked in the biz. I don't know if they mastered in 16:9 back then, but to me, it wouldn't make sense not to. HDTV didn't begin its first broadcast until 1998, but the tech has been in development since the 1970's. I can ask some guys at work that might know. The Series came through our facility back when it was shooting, so it would be nice if we got the business for the Blu-Rays. In all likelihood though, it probably won't.

I might buy the Series if it was released on Blu-Ray, though.

[Dash]

I know it's a double-post, but I thought I'd bump this.

I was talking to my editor today and it turns out, he worked on the Series as well! He provided some insight. Sure enough, everything was mastered in 4:3 back then on 1" videotape. For it to be true HD, they would have to re-scan the film and rebuild the visual effects from scratch, not to mention frame it for 16:9. The only way for them to do it is to present it as 4:3 pillarbox. Most likely, it will be upconverted to HD from the SD source.

He also told me that apparently, it took them about 5 days just to build the opening for Mediabreak. Most of it was just figuring out math, like when each picture-in-picture came into frame. The video switchers back then only had 4 channels, so if I understand correctly, they had to record only 4 pictures at a time; so, 4 machines for playback and 1 for record. Each of these tapes with the 4 Mediabreak videos were called "sub-masters", and once each sub-master was finished, they recorded the final intro. In a time when using computers for non-linear editing wasn't even a thought in someone's head, it was a HUGE pain in the ass!

So, bad news about the Series Blu-Rays aside, it was a good day at work, haha.

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I know it's a double-post, but I thought I'd bump this.

I was talking to my editor today and it turns out, he worked on the Series as well! He provided some insight. Sure enough, everything was mastered in 4:3 back then on 1" videotape. For it to be true HD, they would have to re-scan the film and rebuild the visual effects from scratch, not to mention frame it for 16:9. The only way for them to do it is to present it as 4:3 pillarbox. Most likely, it will be upconverted to HD from the SD source.

He also told me that apparently, it took them about 5 days just to build the opening for Mediabreak. Most of it was just figuring out math, like when each picture-in-picture came into frame. The video switchers back then only had 4 channels, so if I understand correctly, they had to record only 4 pictures at a time; so, 4 machines for playback and 1 for record. Each of these tapes with the 4 Mediabreak videos were called "sub-masters", and once each sub-master was finished, they recorded the final intro. In a time when using computers for non-linear editing wasn't even a thought in someone's head, it was a HUGE pain in the ass!

So, bad news about the Series Blu-Rays aside, it was a good day at work, haha.

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I know it's a double-post, but I thought I'd bump this.

I was talking to my editor today and it turns out, he worked on the Series as well! He provided some insight. Sure enough, everything was mastered in 4:3 back then on 1" videotape. For it to be true HD, they would have to re-scan the film and rebuild the visual effects from scratch, not to mention frame it for 16:9. The only way for them to do it is to present it as 4:3 pillarbox. Most likely, it will be upconverted to HD from the SD source.

He also told me that apparently, it took them about 5 days just to build the opening for Mediabreak. Most of it was just figuring out math, like when each picture-in-picture came into frame. The video switchers back then only had 4 channels, so if I understand correctly, they had to record only 4 pictures at a time; so, 4 machines for playback and 1 for record. Each of these tapes with the 4 Mediabreak videos were called "sub-masters", and once each sub-master was finished, they recorded the final intro. In a time when using computers for non-linear editing wasn't even a thought in someone's head, it was a HUGE pain in the ass!

So, bad news about the Series Blu-Rays aside, it was a good day at work, haha.

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I know it's a double-post, but I thought I'd bump this.

I was talking to my editor today and it turns out, he worked on the Series as well! He provided some insight. Sure enough, everything was mastered in 4:3 back then on 1" videotape. For it to be true HD, they would have to re-scan the film and rebuild the visual effects from scratch, not to mention frame it for 16:9. The only way for them to do it is to present it as 4:3 pillarbox. Most likely, it will be upconverted to HD from the SD source.

He also told me that apparently, it took them about 5 days just to build the opening for Mediabreak. Most of it was just figuring out math, like when each picture-in-picture came into frame. The video switchers back then only had 4 channels, so if I understand correctly, they had to record only 4 pictures at a time; so, 4 machines for playback and 1 for record. Each of these tapes with the 4 Mediabreak videos were called "sub-masters", and once each sub-master was finished, they recorded the final intro. In a time when using computers for non-linear editing wasn't even a thought in someone's head, it was a HUGE pain in the ass!

So, bad news about the Series Blu-Rays aside, it was a good day at work, haha.

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Your editor worked on the series...?

You must have the hugest Nerd-boner. Lmao! I kid of course. But if it were me, I'd be bugging the hell out of him for more info.

But then again, I'm a geek.
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Your editor worked on the series...?

You must have the hugest Nerd-boner. Lmao! I kid of course. But if it were me, I'd be bugging the hell out of him for more info.

But then again, I'm a geek.
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Your editor worked on the series...?

You must have the hugest Nerd-boner. Lmao! I kid of course. But if it were me, I'd be bugging the hell out of him for more info.

But then again, I'm a geek.
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Your editor worked on the series...?

You must have the hugest Nerd-boner. Lmao! I kid of course. But if it were me, I'd be bugging the hell out of him for more info.

But then again, I'm a geek.
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A lot of people who worked on the Series still work there... and I DO bug them, haha. The editor I assist was an assistant himself at the time.

One of the audio guys, James Porteus (his name will pop up in the credits here and there), did the Foley work for the Series. One of my favorite stories from him is when he told me they had three guys with microphones at varying distances to record an explosion from a building. Problem is, the pyro guy REALLY loves his job and gets a kick out of... let's say, "excess". James told me when they listened to their recordings, all you heard was a "pop"; the explosion blew out the microphones at all distances! It actually blew out some windows in neighboring buildings too, so the insurance guys were NOT happy about that.

The great thing is the nerd-boner fits right in at work, haha... they all say what fun it was to work on that; the people were great, and it was in a time when people actually put money into TV shows. That's a lot more than can be said today, that's for sure. I mean, think about it: bad writing aside, the production values for the Series were huge!

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A lot of people who worked on the Series still work there... and I DO bug them, haha. The editor I assist was an assistant himself at the time.

One of the audio guys, James Porteus (his name will pop up in the credits here and there), did the Foley work for the Series. One of my favorite stories from him is when he told me they had three guys with microphones at varying distances to record an explosion from a building. Problem is, the pyro guy REALLY loves his job and gets a kick out of... let's say, "excess". James told me when they listened to their recordings, all you heard was a "pop"; the explosion blew out the microphones at all distances! It actually blew out some windows in neighboring buildings too, so the insurance guys were NOT happy about that.

The great thing is the nerd-boner fits right in at work, haha... they all say what fun it was to work on that; the people were great, and it was in a time when people actually put money into TV shows. That's a lot more than can be said today, that's for sure. I mean, think about it: bad writing aside, the production values for the Series were huge!

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A lot of people who worked on the Series still work there... and I DO bug them, haha. The editor I assist was an assistant himself at the time.

One of the audio guys, James Porteus (his name will pop up in the credits here and there), did the Foley work for the Series. One of my favorite stories from him is when he told me they had three guys with microphones at varying distances to record an explosion from a building. Problem is, the pyro guy REALLY loves his job and gets a kick out of... let's say, "excess". James told me when they listened to their recordings, all you heard was a "pop"; the explosion blew out the microphones at all distances! It actually blew out some windows in neighboring buildings too, so the insurance guys were NOT happy about that.

The great thing is the nerd-boner fits right in at work, haha... they all say what fun it was to work on that; the people were great, and it was in a time when people actually put money into TV shows. That's a lot more than can be said today, that's for sure. I mean, think about it: bad writing aside, the production values for the Series were huge!

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A lot of people who worked on the Series still work there... and I DO bug them, haha. The editor I assist was an assistant himself at the time.

One of the audio guys, James Porteus (his name will pop up in the credits here and there), did the Foley work for the Series. One of my favorite stories from him is when he told me they had three guys with microphones at varying distances to record an explosion from a building. Problem is, the pyro guy REALLY loves his job and gets a kick out of... let's say, "excess". James told me when they listened to their recordings, all you heard was a "pop"; the explosion blew out the microphones at all distances! It actually blew out some windows in neighboring buildings too, so the insurance guys were NOT happy about that.

The great thing is the nerd-boner fits right in at work, haha... they all say what fun it was to work on that; the people were great, and it was in a time when people actually put money into TV shows. That's a lot more than can be said today, that's for sure. I mean, think about it: bad writing aside, the production values for the Series were huge!

[Paddy]

Would that have been from the "Provision 22" episode where Murphy pushes a van with a bomb in the back inside a building to protect a crowd of people, including his wife and child, who are unwittingly beside the van? That explosion always looked massive in that episode.
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Would that have been from the "Provision 22" episode where Murphy pushes a van with a bomb in the back inside a building to protect a crowd of people, including his wife and child, who are unwittingly beside the van? That explosion always looked massive in that episode.
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Would that have been from the "Provision 22" episode where Murphy pushes a van with a bomb in the back inside a building to protect a crowd of people, including his wife and child, who are unwittingly beside the van? That explosion always looked massive in that episode.
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Would that have been from the "Provision 22" episode where Murphy pushes a van with a bomb in the back inside a building to protect a crowd of people, including his wife and child, who are unwittingly beside the van? That explosion always looked massive in that episode.
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