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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:06 pm |
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Something happened in the production of RoboCop 2014 towards the end, because there were a lot of re-shoots and scenes being cut in the final third act.
We know the ending scene with Murphy, wife and son was one, if not the last, extra scene shot back in Nov 2013. And here we have an entire alternate scene with Sellars talking to the press, Robo arriving and then Mattox appearing.
This picture is pieced together from the B roll footage, video filmed by a fan and a trailer.
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Diegoeichan O-L2
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:16 pm |
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so...what's the part that robo says "dead or alive" line in the final cut of the movie?
does he do that "fancy move" with his gun in the movie like in the original as well?
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RoboFan_93 Would Buy You For a Dollar
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:33 pm |
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Oh man, this looks like it could've been a good scene. Hope we get some extras on the DVD, maybe even an extended cut. _________________ Anything you post can be used against you!
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Sin_Valor No. 4 dumbass on the board
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:02 pm |
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I recall the second to last pic 'dead or alive, you're coming with me' was the one used at the end of the theatrical trailer. _________________
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Yarbles Sgt-L3
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:05 pm |
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I was talking to a friend of a friend a few months ago who was an extra in the film. He said the entire ending of the movie was completely redone and they had to come back for extensive reshoots. I'm sure this factored into the delay from the original August release to February.
I'm finally seeing the film when it opens at midnight tonight in Los Angeles.... still interested to see what the original ending was supposed to be and what was lacking/wrong about it to cause it to be redone.
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:08 pm |
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Interesting. That could explain why the ending feels a bit rushed and unfocused at parts.
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Rick CH-L4
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:17 pm |
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This was probably supposed to be the ending, but was changed to the rooftop scene instead, the fight with the ED-209's to help give a bit more action to the film building up to its climax and also a reason for the black suit to be scrapped and for him to back to being silver. _________________
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:55 am |
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I am sure there are loads of scenes that are cut. Just reading Padilha's interviews he talks about so many ideas that are only touched upon or missed in the final movie. I'm hoping for a few extras on the DVD release or a directors cut.
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Re "Dead or Alive..." I was waiting for that scene all movie. But the actual 'Dead or Alive..." we got at the end I really liked. It was very inkeeping with the whole 'reboot' concept and a subtle freshness to the line. It's amazing how it can be said differently and Kinnaman pulled it off well. _________________ Roobocop // The future of Australian justice...
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:47 pm |
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Here's something strange I noticed how when they had first showed the rating for the film and the calculated time of the film. The first run time of the film that I saw online was 121 minutes. Then about a week ago I noticed the run time had changed to 117 minutes. Now if you look on IMDb the films run time shows 108 minutes......so yeah there had to have been a lot of editing in post production and I hope that at least a director's cut version of the film will be available on the blu ray release because it felt like that some of the scenes were rushed (especially the action scenes). And who knows maybe we will get an unrated cut that will add in some more of that much needed violence that felt so missed by myself and I'm sure by A LOT of other Robo fans.
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JimWantsAliens L-L1*
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:03 pm |
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I did wonder if the 'Dead or alive...' line was filmed especially for the trailer. Blockbusters sometimes film a trailer moment, so that the actual use of the catchphrase isn't spoilt in the final film. They did a similar thing for Die Hard With A Vengeance.
One brief scene that was part of the reshoots was the bit where Norton phones Jae. I remember a shot in the press of Gary Oldman in that location. Norton does such a good job of convincing Sellars in the previous scene that without that short bit, I would have thought he genuinely agreed with Sellars.
Certainly, Abbie Cornish tweeted a 'wrap' picture of herself with the young actor who plays David and Robo in silver.
Also, does anyone recall early on - when they announced Jack Lewis - they said there would be a subplot involving him getting close to Clara. That actually would make perfect sense, and be interesting to explore in the sequel especially since Michael K Williams gets so little screen time. But maybe it was the right thing to cut that for this film, as I think for Robo has lost enough for one movie. To see his partner enter a relationship with his wife might have just been too depressing?
A few people have said the third act feels rushed. I'd say maybe more formulaic. But to be honest, any film I see - big budget or independent - no matter how original, the third act almost always slips into tried-and-tested ending. And sometimes if it doesn't, you feel it doesn't work. I feel the running time of 2 hours was just right. I always feel if the extended cuts of Aliens and Terminator 2 were the first cuts I'd seen, I wouldn't love those films as much because they felt like a rollercoaster the first time. If I'd seen the Director's Cut of Aliens first, I'd have thought it was too slow. Really REALLY hope there is a Director's Cut on Blu-ray.
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:13 pm |
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robodisciple : | Here's something strange I noticed how when they had first showed the rating for the film and the calculated time of the film. The first run time of the film that I saw online was 121 minutes. Then about a week ago I noticed the run time had changed to 117 minutes. Now if you look on IMDb the films run time shows 108 minutes......so yeah there had to have been a lot of editing in post production and I hope that at least a director's cut version of the film will be available on the blu ray release because it felt like that some of the scenes were rushed (especially the action scenes). And who knows maybe we will get an unrated cut that will add in some more of that much needed violence that felt so missed by myself and I'm sure by A LOT of other Robo fans. |
The german version, i have seen, had 118 Minutes. Maybe every country has other cuts, for holding that 'childfriendly rating'?
But you are right. That is bad, when you see that the time changes that way.
Those pictures looks interesting. I hope they will put them on the Blue-Ray/DVD as an alternative scene?
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artuditu mio Cid
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:15 pm |
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JimWantsAliens : | Also, does anyone recall early on - when they announced Jack Lewis - they said there would be a subplot involving him getting close to Clara. That actually would make perfect sense, and be interesting to explore in the sequel especially since Michael K Williams gets so little screen time. But maybe it was the right thing to cut that for this film, as I think for Robo has lost enough for one movie. To see his partner enter a relationship with his wife might have just been too depressing? |
I think in that early script it was implied Robo building process took much more time, I don't remember if a year or maybe 2 or 3. But since in the movie there is a letterbox telling you it takes 3 months I think there is no way that subplot could ever happen, the character of Clara would receive a very negative reaction from the audience.
But maybe that was what happened, they filmed that subplot and decided it was so negative (specially for children/teens) that they needed to change all the ending and make a happy family reunited ending. Maybe that OmniCorp bitch was aware of the affair and threatens Clara about it.
Anyway from all we knew about the movie during its production, I really expected something like a 140 minutes film to fit all they wanted to tell.
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:12 pm |
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Itīd be nice to hear that the home editions would have a different/extended cut, as I felt like the movie has a lot of cuts.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:56 am |
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artuditu : | JimWantsAliens : | Also, does anyone recall early on - when they announced Jack Lewis - they said there would be a subplot involving him getting close to Clara... |
I think in that early script it was implied Robo building process took much more time, I don't remember if a year or maybe 2 or 3. But since in the movie there is a letterbox telling you it takes 3 months I think there is no way that subplot could ever happen, the character of Clara would receive a very negative reaction from the audience.
But maybe that was what happened, they filmed that subplot and decided it was so negative (specially for children/teens) that they needed to change all the ending and make a happy family reunited ending. Maybe that OmniCorp bitch was aware of the affair and threatens Clara about it.
Anyway from all we knew about the movie during its production, I really expected something like a 140 minutes film to fit all they wanted to tell. |
Agreed - I think storytelling-wise, you've got to look at each character and what their 'journey' is to an extent, and you've got multiple characters so you can't complicate it too much. I know we shouldn't be thinking about sequels, but you're right - we'd come out of the first movie and hate Clara and Lewis if that happened in the first movie. However, if it's done right, it could work next time.
Does anyone know if the leaked script is online anywhere? I avoided it at the time it leaked but I'd be interested to read it now I've seen the final film.
Also, after my repeat viewing this evening, I notice the scene after Norton leaves Sellars asking for "full funding", there's approximately 20 mins until the end. We know the scene immediately after was done in pick-ups so I wonder if that's the point from where a different ending was decided on.
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