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But is there really much demand for it? Why waste hours shooting and editing content for an incarnation that is universally loathed by the fans? I appreciate a minority liked it, but perhaps they could pool their resources together and do an online piece on it.


While I understand the hate, it´s still RoboCop. If you´re planning to do a "classic Robo" retrospective, that was the final TV show of the character. Same if you talk about Robo-videogames: you can talk about the fun and good looking arcade games, but there´s still the shitty, hard to move RoboCop 3 for SNES or Mega Drive tongue




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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:32 am Reply with quote

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This started as a RoboCop1 documentary and then grew to include Robo2 and 3 and then even the series which is pretty amazing. Adding interviews and stuff about the comics and animated shows etc would be neat, but I think this doc is already packed full as it is. I have no idea how they will be able to edit this down into a reasonable length without cutting too much good content.


There is a 4 hour long documentary about Tom Petty on Netflix. If someone took the time to make that and there are people willing to sit through it, then getting the comics and shows into a Robocop documentary should be no problem. This is the digital age, after all. Who said all movies have to be the same length? Shit, with the success of the 3 hour extended edition of Batman vs Superman its clear there is a market for longer films. Especially since no one is gonna be watching it in the theater it can be as long as they want. Who here wouldn't sit through 4 hours of Robocop documentary? Especially if that meant coverage of some of the more obscure aspects of our fandom? I imagine its gonna take at least an hour to slog though the whole 'Weller trained with a mime which helped him give a great performance' or 'Verhoeven seemed like an angry madman but it was all passion to make Robocop the best film it could be' and all those other points we've heard a million times. Imagine we could just skip past that and dig into some info we have never heard before? Sure, that is impossible because they are making a documentary for casual fans as much as us, but I can hope, right? Is it so wrong to hope they cover my favorite aspect of the Robocop franchise, comics? Sure, Robocop has appeared in 4 films which is a lot of ground to cover, but if you are counting the number of stories he has appeared in the movies are just a tiny part of the overall tapestry. There are way more comics than movies, therefore the comics should be covered. Shit, at this point I would much, much rather have a documentary solely about the Robocop comics than anything going over the first film. Is the first film the most important? Yes, but between the documentaries that are on the DVD as well as various other interviews and footage we've come across over the years is there really anything new to say? In my opinion the first movie should be just a fraction of the documentary, the familiar starting point which launches into a more in depth exploration of the whole franchise. And if it takes 4 hours to do it right, that's fine with me. 6 hours? Sure, why not? They could even split it up into episodes if they are worried about the run time. They each film could have an hour long episode devoted to it, with the comics getting an episode and the shows getting one etc. That is not an unreasonable proportion to ask for. I am not demanding that the comics be the central focus, I just don't want them ignored. Because then that is not really a comprehensive Robodoc, now is it?




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They each film could have an hour long episode devoted to it, with the comics getting an episode and the shows getting one etc?


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Sounds like a new Archive project to me...
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:57 am Reply with quote

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UPDATE:

ROBODOC PHASE 2/3 NOW COMPLETE:

1. BRUCE LOCKE: Otomo (ROBOCOP 3)
2. DEL ZAMORA: Kaplan (ROBOCOP)
3. RANDALL TAYLOR: Starkweather (ROBOCOP 3)
4. PAUL LYNCH: Director (ROBOCOP TV SERIES)
5. ALEC CHORCHES: RoboTeam (ROBOCOP 3)
6. FELTON PERRY: Johnson (ROBOCOP 1-3)
7. FRED DEKKER: Director (ROBPCOP 3)
8. GALYN GORG: Angie (ROBOCOP 2
9. JOHN CASTLE: McDaggett (ROBOCOP 3)
10. REMY RYAN: Niko (ROBOCOP 3)
11. JOAN PIRCKLE SMITH: Barbara (ROBOCOP)
12. KURTWOOD SMITH: Boddiker (ROBOCOP)
13. J. MILES DALE: Producer (ROBOCOP TV SERIES)
14. TOM NOONAN: Cain (ROBOCOP 2)

We still have a final PHASE 4 that will include about 4 interviews.

Despite everyone's best efforts and with over 70 interviews now completed Dr. Peter Weller has still declined to participate in RoboDoc. Again we must respect his wishes and believe that there are no further opportunities to entice him.

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This is just...wow...what a list...what a documentary, its almost a torture we have to wait so long

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:37 pm Reply with quote

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Shit, at this point I would much, much rather have a documentary solely about the Robocop comics than anything going over the first film.


Maybe you should make that doc then if you feel passionate about it?



The film-makers clearly want to focus on the first film from the perspective of 30 years after it was made. That's the difference between it and the original making of docs -

"A fully independent retrospective into the making of 'RoboCop' and its cultural impact over the last 30 years. Supported by dozens of the original cast and crew 'RoboDoc' is made by fans of the movie for fans of the movie."

The longer you make a doc, the costlier it is and the lesser size of an audience will watch it.




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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:39 pm Reply with quote

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Maybe you should make that doc then if you feel passionate about it?


Well, I could write a good treatment for it since writing is what I go to school for. I'm no documentarian though, nor do I own a camera. I don't have the time or resources to do it justice, but since there is a team of people out there who have both the time and the resources to do such a thing, and are making a documentary about Robocop right now, I'm just hoping they could touch on the topic, and maybe use some of the resources they have used to reach out to people connected with Robocop's past to get someone from the comics field.


Now, I am busy with school and many other things, so I definitely can't make a full fledged documentary on Robocop comics, but this does give me a good idea for a little video or a video series. I have an almost complete Robocop comics collection, only missing the Robocop 3 series from Dark Horse. There are also a bunch of variant covers I don't have, but they are not essential and I do actually have a bunch from the Avatar series. So maybe I could make a video or series of videos going through my collection, going over the history as I do.

What do you guys think? Should I pursue this project? Also, do you think it would be best to make one long video going over the whole history, or would it be better to do a separate video for each publisher? Also, should I go for a documentary approach, or would a review series be better? I kind of like the idea of reviewing each publisher's output individually though that does get away from the documentary approach. Also, I am friends with Lee Sullivan on facebook like many of you are, so there is a chance I could ask him a couple questions or such. Might be possible to get other people involved from various other publishers, but if that's the case I definitely would not be able to start this project until this summer once I have graduated college and have more free time on my hands.

This is definitely something I will have to think about a lot before starting. I would basically be filming it off my phone unless I can find a friend with a camera to borrow. I would also want to fill the couple little holes in my collection, something I won't have the money to do for a while. Fortunately I already have the most expensive part, the RvT artist's edition. But let me know what you guys think. Maybe it would be best to wait until after the documentary comes out because there is a small chance they will actually go over this material. But if they don't do a good job I am definitely open to the idea of stepping in and documenting the comics in some more comprehensive way.




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Put it up on Kickstarter and who knows you may even get the funds for a camera etc...
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Put it up on Kickstarter and who knows you may even get the funds for a camera etc...


Not a bad idea. I have thought about using Kickstarter before but have always been hesitant. Still, it seems like a good idea for this project. I would definitely need your guys help spreading it though, because my network of friends with steady income is rather limited. But even if it was just a few bucks to get some of the rarer variant covers that could help. Also, funds were raised on an episode by episode basis there is always the chance that it catches on and gets more support as it goes along. Still, I am not too familiar with Kickstart so I am still wary, but it couldn't hurt to at least try.




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Are you looking for physical copies of the R3 comics or digital ones?
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:14 am Reply with quote

Shit man if you feel that froggy, go for it. Kickstarter might be worth considering for sure. My suggestions - I'd wait 'til after RoboDoc's release to be sure, otherwise I'd lean more to a review series unless you can get a lot of good background from folks involved to make it more a documentary, and either way I'd split it up by publisher or series/arc. If you do a doc maybe a long video but still sectioned off so. Anyway, just my thoughts there.
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Are you looking for physical copies of the R3 comics or digital ones?


Physical ones. After all, I tt wouldn't be too exciting filming my screen. Laughing I have physical copies of every other Robocop comic but this series has slipped by me. Probably because it's just an adaption and it doesn't come in a snazzy single volume like the Marvel adaptions of the first two movies.

At this point its just an idea, however. If the Robodoc covers the subject I will be content and might just do a text review of the entire series or something like that. I've wanted to go through and read them all in order from Marvel to Boom but that is a time consuming effort for someone in college who also regularly reads other comics. But mark my words, if I feel the documentary doesn't give enough love to the comics I will step in at some point and make sure that the topic is covered in depth. Because, first movie aside, the comics are the best part of the Robocop franchise.




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I went looking for my copies to send to you but all I can find is my RvsT trade paperback. I think my other comics went to storage; never to be seen again after my first marriage ended...
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I went looking for my copies to send to you but all I can find is my RvsT trade paperback. I think my other comics went to storage; never to be seen again after my first marriage ended...


Thanks for the thought! Sorry to hear you lost your comics but at least I am not the only one who has lost something Robocop related lately haha. But the Robocop 3 comics are very cheap to pick up, the only reason I haven't got around to it is because every time I buy comics I wind up buying stuff I am more interested in reading. The only reason I have to get the adaptions is to have the full Robocop comics collection, which I now have more reason to pursue. I'm not really in a rush to read them but you gotta have them.




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