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ChAnOoD
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| Archive : | | I can only guess that they will run the SD copy they have in some upscale program. Fix the contrast and make the colors pop a bit better. It's not gonna look fantastic but still way better than the bland recent German Bluray edition. |
Oh, yeah. Some episodes don´t look too bad, but others (like the pilot) looked like a VHS. No black areas but grey ones, and anything looks like a black and white film 
| Quote: | | I have to think there is absolutely no way they are redoing all the FX and POV shots. Very time consuming and expensive. |
Yup, it´d cost a few bucks and time, but you can´t go widescreen if you do that, as it´d butcher the MediaBreaks and the POV shots. Plus, on closeups you´d end cutting half of the head of the people on shot. Anyway, why bother with a widescreen edition if you´d end taking the TV ratio and expand it to fill everything? I find it weird that they have plans to release TWO different versions of the show when they could do something like the German label did before. If they´re going to go widescreen I´d think they´d add something, if not it´d be pointless to do twice the job while you could focus on the original one.
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ChAnOoD
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:05 pm |
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Don´t know if I should spill this, but anyway: The remaster is already done, and it was remastered from beta tapes instead of 35 mm film.
I still can´t see how they´ll do the widescreen adaption, as it´d chop parts up and down. Unless they´d edit everything on widescreen and then adapted it to the TV aspect ratio, most of the RoboPOV would be cut (texts on top or bottom would be cut at some points).
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RoboPimp
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:58 pm |
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| ChAnOoD : | | Don´t know if I should spill this, but anyway: The remaster is already done, and it was remastered from beta tapes instead of 35 mm film. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7So8Zur4eY
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ChAnOoD
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:53 am |
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Tried to find some info about the people who´ll release it on Blu Ray, but no luck yet. I wonder where it´ll be available and how...
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RoboPimp
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:17 pm |
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Tried to find some info about the people who´ll release it on Blu Ray, but no luck yet. I wonder where it´ll be available and how... |
As soon as you dropped the news, A Future to This Life started blasting in my head. I hope everyone has the same reaction. Eagerly awaiting more info, any attention given to the Series is a good thing in my book!
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ChAnOoD
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:31 pm |
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| RoboPimp : | | As soon as you dropped the news, A Future to This Life started blasting in my head. I hope everyone has the same reaction. Eagerly awaiting more info, any attention given to the Series is a good thing in my book! |
It´d be cool to have a decent release on Blu Ray. But I´m still thinking about how they made it. As far as I know, they didn´t have the 35 mm (I assume it´s gone) and they used the so called beta tapes. No FX redo, so let´s see how it´ll look.
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But beta tapes surely mean video? So the improvement in image quality will be minimal at best. If they aren't able to get access or are not going to use the 35mm film then there isn't much they can do for this. It isn't gonna look as great as we'd all like, sadly.
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ChAnOoD
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:09 am |
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| Rick_ : | | But beta tapes surely mean video? So the improvement in image quality will be minimal at best. If they aren't able to get access or are not going to use the 35mm film then there isn't much they can do for this. It isn't gonna look as great as we'd all like, sadly. |
Not sure. It seems the 35 mm wasn´t available (or was lost) and they worked from the "beta masters". Some tech guys here would know more about it. Anyway, I understand they took EVERYTHING (including FX, the whole finished episodes) and remastered them. It seems there are plans for two releases, one in 4:3 and other in 19:6, unless they´ll end making a big boxset with both versions. But I couldn´t find any info about the company behind the Blu Ray release.
It seems it´s getting some attention worldwide to get it on streaming, but I´m afraid the new remaster isn´t available yet anywhere.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:47 am |
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| Rick_ : | | But beta tapes surely mean video? So the improvement in image quality will be minimal at best. |
Yeah, and something being "remastered" is a pretty fuzzy statement really. It can be an ambitious project or absolutely half assed and rushed. Here i assume they took the SD beta tape episodes and used some upscale program and fixed a bit with the colors. (Hopefully they don't add some smoothing HD filter.)
It should look better than the previous releases but using a low res source to begin with there is only so much that can be done. I do hope they put the best of effort into it .
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ChAnOoD
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:35 pm |
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| Archive : | | It should look better than the previous releases but using a low res source to begin with there is only so much that can be done. I do hope they put the best of effort into it . |
Funny thing, it seems there´s a SD remaster for the 4:3 version, and the HD remaster would be the widescreen one. Which is weird if they´re trying to release both on Blu Ray (unless the 4:3 version would be on DVD, which would be weird since there was another release on that format). The company name is Liberty Media (or Liberty Bell Media), but couldn´t find a thing on them.
| Archive : | | Here i assume they took the SD beta tape episodes and used some upscale program and fixed a bit with the colors. (Hopefully they don't add some smoothing HD filter.) |
I wonder how they´d handle the POV shots if it´s that way. I did some edits with The Series and you can´t do these shots without chopping the up and down text. Unless they distort the image to fit the widescreen format, there aren´t too many options to make it right.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:09 pm |
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I mean there is no way the episodes were saved in different layers, and there is one version without the POV text that they can just make changes to. And even if there were i don't see them going in and making any more work than they have to with this. It wouldn't be cost effective.
I honestly don't think they will pay much attention to that some POV text will be cut in a HD widescreen version. I remember the widescreen edition of Simpsons that cut out lots of visual jokes and recently they did the same with Seinfeld. They will probably just zoom in and call it a day.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:30 am |
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| Archive : | | I remember the widescreen edition of Simpsons that cut out lots of visual jokes and recently they did the same with Seinfeld. They will probably just zoom in and call it a day. |
Yup, yesterday I took a look to some of the Seinfeld comparisons. And while they chopped some gags due to the change of the aspect ratio, it seems the scenes add more information in both sides, which is not just a cropped, zoomed shots.
Don´t know, but it´d be way too lazy to have stuff cut out. I mean, if you just zoom it, if Robo´s watching a guy´s head and the "Use Of Force Alternatives_" text appears, you´ll end watching a nose and mouth if you don´t want to sacrifice the text. Funny stuff, with today´s technology, doing the Robovision digitally would be easy (most of the times is just green text over a POV), and luckily most of the FX, with the exception of Diana, were made practically (except a few sparks on Robo or an explosion or two). Plus, it´d be a great opportunity to have "A Future To This Life" and some featurettes as extras, but I´m afraid it´d end being a plain release. I wonder if they´re gonna release it as a boxset or if they´re trying to squeeze tons on episodes on a single disc. If it´s that way, I think it wouldn´t make a lot of sense to buy it again if it´ll look like the German edition.
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RoboPimp
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| ChAnOoD : | | they worked from the "beta masters" |
Same, but the other way around...
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ChAnOoD
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:28 am |
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I sent a mail to the guys behind the Blu Ray release yesterday, but no reply. I asked for an estimated release date, and wish they won´t put Weller´s Robo2 pose on their releases. It´d be cool to live in a World where articles don´t use pictures of Robert Burke while talking about Robo1 and we have releases of The Series with Richard Eden on the cover
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