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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:42 am Reply with quote

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I think the movie would kick ass, it would be hard to pick a winner though


errr......maybe.... ROBOCOP?!?!?!?

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:18 pm Reply with quote

just have the terminator touch down in ol detroit , and tryu to rob a gun store or something like that , when robo goes to the scene of the crime he runs into the terminator



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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:28 pm Reply with quote

If you want to see one, you'll have to do it yourself.

Actually, all one would need is a robosuit, a stop motion T800, a full size T800 torso, leg and arm+hand. And some good stop motion & adobe after effects skills...

If done right it'll look like a movie made in the 80's. Just like robo and terminator...




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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:52 am Reply with quote

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Actually, all one would need is a robosuit, a stop motion T800, a full size T800 torso, leg and arm+hand. And some good stop motion & adobe after effects skills...



I'm sure we all have an abundance of these somewhere in our closets...along with good quality cameras, a working crew and many, many hours of freetime.

Seriously, that all sounds a lot easier then it would really be Sad




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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:08 pm Reply with quote

It actually is... Get a couple of motivated people, get access to warehouses and the like... and presto...

All it takes is willpower. The money, well, I am just assuming that the people wanting to do this already have a robosuit, and the other people have the 1:1 scale replica arm, and again others the scaled version of the T800. Almost everyone has a handycam nowadays, and some even an HD one. Hell, if you're lucky one guy in the group loves to film and even has some experience with after effects and the sort. Sure, if some elements are missing you'll have to buy that.

But like I said, it takes a lot of people desperately WANTING something like this to happen. If you kinda want it the project is doomed from the start. People will walk out, and that leaves a very bad taste in yer mouth (and possibly wallet).




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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:52 pm Reply with quote

man id LOVE to see a RoboCop Vs The Terminator, it have the 2 directors, Verhoven if i spelled it right, and Cameron, Verhoven does the Robocop part of the film, and Cameron does the other way. and they combine there scenes together, and BOOM, we have a 4 star , and a kick ass rated R movie.



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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:53 am Reply with quote

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It actually is... Get a couple of motivated people, get access to warehouses and the like... and presto...

All it takes is willpower. The money, well, I am just assuming that the people wanting to do this already have a robosuit, and the other people have the 1:1 scale replica arm, and again others the scaled version of the T800. Almost everyone has a handycam nowadays, and some even an HD one. Hell, if you're lucky one guy in the group loves to film and even has some experience with after effects and the sort. Sure, if some elements are missing you'll have to buy that.

But like I said, it takes a lot of people desperately WANTING something like this to happen. If you kinda want it the project is doomed from the start. People will walk out, and that leaves a very bad taste in yer mouth (and possibly wallet).


If it is as easy as you guys make it out to be, and there are loads of people who would want to see the movie, then I wonder why it hasn't been done before?
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:27 am Reply with quote

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I think the movie would kick ass, it would be hard to pick a winner though


That was a little dumb, no?

Do you wanted to be a slave to the machines??? :roll:
I wouldn´t.

Of course RoboCop would be the only winner mr green
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:02 am Reply with quote

so long as paul w.s. anderson and those special effects brothers (who were they again?) stayed away from it



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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:10 pm Reply with quote

Making a film isn't nearly as easy as it's being made out to be, not if you want a single scrap of quality to shine through in the final product. Even with a script, a full cast, costumes, props and a roster of practical effects, every day of filming would be an enormous group effort.

A single bullet hole in a wall requires a hole to be drilled, a small explosive placed in the cavity, the squib wired, the hole filled and painted over, and this needs to be done for every take.

For example: the core crew arrives on location and preps for filming by dressing the set and laying down any equipment necessary for filming, everything from camera tracks and lighting. The photographer sets up the lighting while any effects are worked on as well. The actors show up and re-rehearse the scene on the set before suiting up and lighting is finalized.

The camera still hasn't rolled!

You need multiple takes and camera angles, someone on set whose job is purely to watch for continuity errors (so props don't switch hands and the like) and people operating the equipment, whether the camera or a boom mic or reflectors or off-camera effects. And everything in this scene needs to be storyboarded beforehand!

Post-pro requires dialog looping, digital grading of footage to match lighting levels and color pallets, not to mention editing the scenes themselves. You add in visual effects and everything gets even worse.

Let's say you want a Term to receive a shotgun blast to the head, revealing the endoskeleton skull, but don't want to do it with a break-away puppet. Photo-reference and measurements are taken of the actor's head, along with the environment he's present in. Control surfaces are used to capture the lighting for duplication in post before the scene is acted out. The shot is filmed with tracking markers painted on the actor's face. A full model of the actor's head is created in your preferred CG prog along with an endoskeleton skull properly scaled and proportioned to your actor. The CGI head is tracked over the existing footage using the markers for reference, then lit using the control surface reference. The skull is lit as well and the chrome surface is replicated using the photo-reference of the set taken earlier, and the footage is stitched together and cleaned up.

This isn't even taking into account the tearing of the skin nor the shotgun blast.

Movies are intensive people. Primer cost $5000. Have any of you seen Primer? They did wonderful things with their budget, but there's nothing fantastical or effects-driven about the thing at all. I think there are two effects shots in the movie. $5000 for a movie with no action sequences or crazy environments... most of the film takes place in places like hotel rooms and garages, the filmmaker's parents catered for the cast and crew, etc..

Sorry, it's just... a 30-second television commercial can cost millions of dollars. There's no way you can film a competent Robo VS Term flick with a camera, some costumes and a couple of buddies.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:00 pm Reply with quote

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Sorry, it's just... a 30-second television commercial can cost millions of dollars. There's no way you can film a competent Robo VS Term flick with a camera, some costumes and a couple of buddies.


But the robocop vs terminator we are talking about here, is if there would be good to have a robocop vs terminator major movie, not a fanmade clip Smile
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:59 am Reply with quote

Having found and read this article at http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=story&id=1061&articleid=VR1118003571&cs=1

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MGM has a 30-day right of first refusal to finance and distribute the fifth "Terminator" film, a right earned through the settlement of a lawsuit between the studio and Halcyon partners Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson. According to sources, MGM has every intention of making a serious play for the franchise, potentially trumping Warner Bros., which is distributing "Terminator Salvation" in domestic territories, and Sony, which is releasing the film overseas.


So before the question was what if WB took on Robocop?
Now is what if MGM took on Terminator?
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Variety :
Halcyon is obligated to give MGM first crack at the fifth film. While some may question whether MGM can afford another big-ticket obligation, "Terminator" would be a strong fit alongside other franchise properties that include two Guillermo del Toro-helmed installments of "The Hobbit," a Darren Aronofsky-directed revamp of "Robocop," the next James Bond installment and "The Matarese Circle," an adaptation of the Robert Ludlum thriller that has David Cronenberg directing and Denzel Washington and Tom Cruise attached to star.[/b]


Interesting news for sure.

Personally I'm VERY skeptic about a RvsT. I'm just afraid that it would turn into a Alien VS Predator travesty where they wreck two great characters with one movie.




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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:48 pm Reply with quote

That's true Archive,

Also I don't want Robo to return to the big screen in the light of Termy's new success.
I want Robo to return to the big screen in it's own movie with it's own ideas.
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